Jimbob people are going to argue about what ships can and can't do even if everything is taken right out of the game. Someone always posts something a little too extremeno matter what presidents are set beforehand (Skyblde calling foul right after he had tried to capture our capital without even fighting the defense fleet comes to mind). I think that as long as we dont allow new weapons and tech everyone will get along reasonably well and any problems that do come up can be resolved easily. Think about it, in BFS III everyone was constantly arguing about who's missiles did more damage, or whether the plasma beam cannon did more damgage than the fusion beam... and almost everybody had their own ideas about the tech. As long as we dont introduce any new tech everyone will know from experiance what the ships can do.

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Oh by the way Jager, you can take JD and Anakin Solo off the list for Fed players, both have stated that they wont be able to play.

(edit)Also Luke posted rather early on that he was still interested, but you still have a ? by his name he is still playing isnt he? if he isnt we need a few more Pirates.(/edit)
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(This message has been edited by Vice Admiral Ipvicus (edited 04-24-2002).)

I'm quite happy to allow one new ship per faction at the start, with heavy costs for developing new ships later on (although I think it ought to be 200% for Rebels and Confeds and 300% for Indys, Pirates, Mercs and the rest) but I don't think we need new weapons. Besides, I'm perfectly willing to actually make a plug with my ship in so you can all compare it to other ships
Here's an image of the Athena - class Olympian Frigate.

I had the idea that it was originally a pre-Great War design, refurbished and upgraded extensively by the Olympians. Which is why it looks sorta primitive. But cool, wouldn't you agree?

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Ok, as long as it's only one to two new ships, with very well known facts. As long as I don't have to make the images for the rebels.

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Ok, as long as it's only one to two new ships, with very well known facts

It will probably not be that few, but it definitely won't be very rapid. The stats and notes will be made public.

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**As long as I don't have to make the images for the rebels.:p
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Hehe...you can always steal from a plug-in

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Lol, well I'm glad you are staying with us... I would hate to miss the oppoutunity to turn your fleets into flaming ruins :p.

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I'm pretty against creating new ships in the middle of the story. You guys saw what happened with BFS II and III! Complete chaos.

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I think we should get to choose one ship when we start the game and let there be weapon upgrades and a new weapon. But you must say exactly how good the ship/ weapon/ weapon upgrade is.

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Grundulater, we have decided upon one new ship per faction at the start, but I'm against new weapons. They're always hard to judge, and even if I was to make a plug of one, comparing an Athena with a Corsair with a Laser Beam Turret or whatever would be difficult. I say; new ships yes (under strict regulations, which we have covered: 200% of buliding cost for a prototype for the Rebels and Confeds, 300% of building cost for a prototype for the others) new weapons; no.
Fighter bays I suppose could be allowed, but you'd still have to do the research thing - you can't make a Rapier fit in a Lightning bay without work.

Jimbob - which independent system are you?

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last i knew jimbob was my second in command.

i think we should hold off the start of this webstory as the confeds and rebels have a lack of players.

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Don't you think that the Confeds having 200 million more credits than the Rebels is a tad unfair?

Okay, I'm bored, so I decided to create my personnal fleet. I get 200 million to assemble it, don't I?

Lethe 7th Fleet
10 Kestrels - one upgraded Red October Flagship
20 Corvettes
10 Argosies
40 Rapiers

That should be around 200 million or so.

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Not really considering the Feds have pretty much the industiral base of the entire galaxy. Also U.E. Admiral didn't have a problem with it so I don't see any reason why anyone else should.

Also the Confederation is perfectly able to start with three players as long as we are allowed to organize our ships as we please. The way I see it the Rebels have more than enough players, and the Confeds ready to go regardless.
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(This message has been edited by Vice Admiral Ipvicus (edited 04-25-2002).)

This is the Confederation's new ship:

Prowler Corvette
Speed: 400
Accel: ****
Turn: ***
Shields: 80
Armor: 100
Fuel: 5 Jumps
Mass: 100
Cost: 2.44M
Armament: Four rocket launchers; twenty rockets, two space bomb racks; fifteen space bombs, five proton cannons

So the Confederation gets 1B, right? Carno: The Confederation is universely acknowledged to have the most powerful and developed economy.

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**That should be around 200 million or so.
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191.32M credits.

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**191.32M credits.

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Okay, but do we get 200 million for our fleets, or was it 600 million? I can't remember...

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**Okay, but do we get 200 million for our fleets, or was it 600 million? I can't remember...
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300M for all Lethe fleets.

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WAIT!!!!!! Stop the press stop the press!! I'm still here!! I'm still here!!!

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Someone remind me; how much cash does Olympus get?

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As an independent, 300 M, like the Lethes or Cydonians.

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