The stuff that I've said I will do is not set in stone. If you disagree (on the terms that it would unfairly modify the balance of the game), feel free to call me on it.

Hehe, this post was too long at first, so I have to break it into two posts...

(quote)Originally posted by Jimbob:
Give the Argosies a laser and one more turret so the pirates aren't totally hopeless. (/quote)

I'll play with the balances a bit to see how well that works out.

(quote)Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
I've always thought that the patrol ships needed to have a slightly higher turning ratio since they are fighters (/quote)

Agreed.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Give the Clipper an extra javelin pod. It's already in bad shape in terms of performance, so that might give it a minor advantage. (/quote)

Makes sense.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Give the Confederation Frigate and Rebel Destroyer each an additional proton turret. Two is, well... I'd expect more of a military warship. (/quote)

Agreed.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
That Shuttle needs at least one laser cannon (two recommended. One thing I liked about the Override shuttle was that it actually came with slight armament)... The poor sucker can't even defend itself. (/quote)

I'll give it one.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Give the Confederation Patrol Ship a bit more speed. (/quote)

I'll play around with the stats, and see what happens...

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Give the Bulk Freighter two laser turrets. That thing takes next to nothing to destroy, and it needs some decent firepower to defend those rediculous tons of cargo. (/quote)

Very much agreed.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Give the Defender a single javelin pod with 25 javelins. It's going to die anyway, so it needs something to at least hurt you with. (/quote)

Hehe, nah. I'll just up its shields slightly and give it a slight bit of armor. Maybe I'll switch one of it's lasers to a proton.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Perhaps the Rebel Cruiser could use 50 or so more shields to give it a chance against the 'Fed Cruiser. 75% of the time, the Confederation Cruiser wins, and the remaining 25%, they both get disabled. Either that, or give the Rebel Cruiser an additional proton turret. (/quote)

Agreed.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Improve the Clipper's acceleration slightly, up until it's a 'good' rating. It's sluggishness is what makes it so annoying. (/quote)

True.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Make the shield upgrades increase your total by 25 each, instead of 15. I'd say 50, but that seems too much for smaller ships such as the fighters. (/quote)

I'll make it 20.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Change the Neutron Cannon so it's less useless. Either make it take up half the space and keep it's stats the same, or make it take up the same amount of space and make it more effective. A long range primary fire neutron cannon might actually be useful on bigger ships. (/quote)

I've already made it a primary weapon (which should help some), but I may drop its mass from 35 to 25 or maybe even 20, but I probably won't change its range or power. If you don't want it, don't buy it.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Change the engine outfits. Instead of one upgrade for each aspect of your engine, make cheaper, less effective upgrades that you can purchase multiple times. Two engine upgrades for 50,000 credits that increased your speed by 50 would be better then one more expensive upgrade. (/quote)

I don't wanna mess with the engine outfits, I think they are just fine where they are. After all, you're paying a mechanic to modify your acceleration/turning... have you ever gone down to Mienike or somewhere to get you car to go even fast, and expected a great deal?

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Some rebel freighters protected by mantas would be nice. Some more düdes and flëets in general I guess. (/quote)

I'm not adding stuff.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
A new ship (/quote)

See above.

(quote)Originally posted by Myriad:
Make the bulk freighter available for purchase. Don't make it cheap though, as it is the ultimate trading vessel. Give it some more armor too. (/quote)

I've already made it available. Thankfully, it already had a price tag, so I'll just use that. I won't give it any more armor, but I am going to arm it a bit.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
The same goes for the Mass Driver. (/quote)

Agreed... I'll drop its mass to about 30, and may or may not mess with it's stats.

(quote)Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Speaking of which, it might be a good idea to give the Rebel Cruiser four mass drivers, since its counterpart carries four neutron cannons... (/quote)

At the expense of what? I don't think this will work too well, although it is a good idea...

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
< Ahem>(/quote)

Nope, out of the question.

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Make the Confederates nicer to talk to. They always say, "Unauthorized use of communication is violation of Confederation Navy Code." No innocent little shuttle trader wants to hear that. No wonder they have a predisposition to like the Rebels. Make 'em say, "What's up?" "Speak to me," or "Howdy." Something fun. (/quote)

Nah. Too much work for something that doesn't really affect the balance of the game (which is the point of all this).

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Three words: space bars everywhere. (/quote)

Three words (kinda): I don't wanna. That would require me writing for each bar, which I don't feel like doing. Plus, the bars are or aren't put there on purpose, I'm not going to modify them (with the exception of Earth; that one ALWAYS felt like a mistake).

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Add references to the web board. (/quote)

Uh, no.

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
it was my idea, so I think I have first rights if ya use it.) (/quote)

But it is my plugin...

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Give third-rate colonies (Luna, Mars, Diphidia) more outfits. They've got barely anything. (/quote)

Nope, that's why they are third-rate colonies. Especially Luna and Mars, they're so close to Earth and Stardock Alpha that it would make sense that if the colonies themselves needed supplies, they could just send a request for more supplies. Especially Luna, as it is just the Confederate shipyard; it doesn't need supplies to defend itself (Earth and Stardock Alpha are right there), and it doesn't need traders to stop by all the time. When was the last time you swung by a military base to pick up some windshield wipers for your car?

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Add the ability to help stranded ships for cash. I feel guilty stealing from pre-disabled traders. But you shouldn't be able to help if you attacked them. (/quote)

Don't steal from them then.

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
Rebel trading ships that aren't part of Confederate attack missions. (/quote)

Nah, that would require adding stuff.

(quote)Originally posted by Rawzer:
When you have an enemy targeted, try and make it so any ship you hit accidently doesn't fire back. I realize that there are cheaters who could manipulate this, but I'm just brainstorming. (/quote)

That does make sense... I'll try modifying the values that cause governments to get pissed at you so that they are a little more leniant about it.

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Originally posted by cable_guy:
- Rebel cruiser gets 100 shields extra (does that make it 600? I thought it was originally 500, but I haven't played EV without a plugin for a while), and possibly the 4th proton turret filled

Hey, a good place to check the stats of the ships would be the EV Survival Guide!

Seriously, though, I may end up giving it an extra 50 on shields, but no more. I will fill that last turret slot, though.

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Originally posted by cable_guy:
- Corvette has twin proton turrets instead of twin laser turrets. It always struck me as odd that a ship that cost almost 2.5million credits would still be fitted with lasers as opposed to meaner, better sounding, more damaging proton turrets.

How about I make it one laser turret, and one proton turret.

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Originally posted by cable_guy:
- I reckon the argosy should be a tad cheaper (knock off 50 - 100,000 credits), so that there is less of a gap between the clipper and the argosy.

I'll make it 725,000. A wee bit cheaper, but the Argosy IS better than the Clipper, so I see no need for there to be a smaller gap.

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Originally posted by cable_guy:
- And maybe a ship between the corvette and the kestrel, but maybe that's asking for a bit much.

Nope.

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Originally posted by cable_guy:
- Also, I think that the missions for the two governments should be altered to allow the various ships to be accessed after various missions, so it works like in Galactic Scourge. Maybe you should be allowed the rebel destroyer after the astrodyne outpost mission, then the cruiser after the alien mission (In the case of the rebels). That would be a tad better than it is currently.

I may consider it, but don't expect it any time soon.

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Originally posted by antihero:
i always thought that there should be an argosy version that had a hawk bay. while useless, it would be nice and would vindicate the price a bit.

Uh, yeah, thats why the Hawk bay is more expensive than a single Argosy... I don't think so. If you want a Hawk bay on your ship, buy one.

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Originally posted by UE Patriot:
At the very least, a bar on Earth. It's the homeworld of hhumanity and the capital of a galactic superpower, for crying out loud! Souldn't there be someplace to eat at its spaceport.

Already commented on.

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Originally posted by UE Patriot:
Also, you should do "defend the Confederate system from Rebel attack" missions. Sort of like the "defend Rebel" world missions. They would be in the bar, there would be a 5% chance of getting them, and you would basically defend the system against Rebel invaders. I don't recall if EV already has this, but still.

That would require a new mïsn resource. Nope.

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Originally posted by UE Patriot:
Give Palshife a bigger defense fleet.

Nah, I'll leave it for now. The Rebels aren't as organized as the Confederation, it makes sense that they wouldn't have as many ships to defend their planets, as they're spread out attacking the Confederation.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Defence dudes should have less ships but larger waves as dominating planets is DULL when all you have to do is blast lighntings/patrol ships/rapiers ect. out of the sky one by one. e.g. instead of fighing 50 waves of 5 ships you could fight 5 waves of 30 ships to make the battles more intense but quicker.

I have neither the time nor the desire/drive to modify EVERY planet to accomplish this.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Scale the ship grapics so that they are all the correct size (so the defender is 25 times smaller than the confed cruiser insead of about 5 times smaller)

Makes sense, but don't expect me to do it any time soon.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Make the particle beam do more damage and use less fuel.

Nope, it is just fine the way it is.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Make the "special" outfits (cloaking device, tractor beam, particle beam) not stay with your ship but available to buy after the appropriate mission is completed.

Um, no.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Make all the fighter bays hold more fighters

No, I think that they are just fine the way they are.

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Originally posted by AWoohahD:
Make the hawk bay slightly larger (so you can't fit one on a lightning) but hold more fighters (like

See above.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
I think all two ship fighter bays should hold four, but the Manta bay should hold eight. Patrol ship bay, ah, keep it at what it was.

I'm going to make it so the Manta "bay" holds 6. This will help out the Rebel Cruiser, and it also makes more sense, since the Mantas actually latch onto the ring on the Cruiser, they aren't stored in a bay.

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Originally posted by Insano:
I'm not really sure, but maybe make the Confed cruiser a more well rounded ship.

How so?

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Originally posted by Insano:
And what's up with the thread? It's not the right shape.

That would be AWoohadD's fault. His "From" field is very long, and has no spaces after the commas, stretching the left hand cell. I've already emailed him about it, but it is damn obnoxious. Maybe karma slaps for each posts if he doesn't modify it...

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
Heck, I pulled an EVula there.

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Originally posted by Phil Barron:
Provide a spöb - just one, maybe - where it would be possible to purchase and (even better) sell Lightning bays.

Hmm, after considering this: not a bad idea. The Lightnings are a pretty expensive ship (a million a piece), so the bay would be very expensive as well. Only people who could fly a Kestrel anyway would be able to afford to purchase one, but it certainly would be nice to sell it if you had a Kestrel and didn't want them anymore.

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Also, give the kestrel a bit more shields. It's only about 4 million less than a rebel cruiser, but yet they never even stand a chance against them. Hmm, maybe that would be bad when you encounter pirates though...ah well, I'll let you figure it out

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Also, give the kestrel a bit more shields. It's only about 4 million less than a rebel cruiser, but yet they never even stand a chance against them. Hmm, maybe that would be bad when you encounter pirates though...ah well, I'll let you figure it out:)

**

Not only that, but the Rebel Destroyer can often trash a Kestrel. The Kestrel is basiclly the only frigate-class vessel available for independent use, and it's pricey for a good reason.

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Give some large govt. ships and fleets money so after you fight them you get a bonus besides I think these ships have to transport some money with them.

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
Also, give the kestrel a bit more shields. It's only about 4 million less than a rebel cruiser, but yet they never even stand a chance against them. Hmm, maybe that would be bad when you encounter pirates though...ah well, I'll let you figure it out

I'm going to be dropping the price of the Kestrel slightly, so I think that this will balance it out enough. Quite frankly, military-grade ships SHOULD be able to beat a Kestrel, since the Kestrel is just for civilians.

Yes, maybe Rebel ships shouldn't be able to, but that would require retweaking every ship's shields (to maintain the proper balance), and that just isn't worth it for a single ship. If I do modify the Kestrel's shileds, it would be in such a small amount that you probably wouldn't notice. More thank likely, though, I'll just increase it's armor instead.

Man, you guys pointed out way more things than I thought about... Moderation 1.0 should get out soon, but it won't be with a bunch of these ideas... 2.0 will have them, though. (You guys have no idea how many plugins I've got going on right now. There is Moderation for EV and EVO, a couple of small plugs for EVN, and a couple of other plugs for EV and EVO; all this, and I'm going to be moving soon, too. Yeesh.).

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How so?

Give it better speed, less weapons, and less shields.

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You're making plugs for EVN? Already? Sheesh. Is that game even coming out within a year?

Hey, I noticed you posted 8 things I said, and you said flat-out "No." to 7 of 'em. What's up with that? What did I ever do? Sheesh again.

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Make a ridiculously expensive outfit (1 mil plus) that lets you had room for one fighter in your fighter bay. Takes up ten space.

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Originally posted by Insano:
**Give it better speed, less weapons, and less shields.
**

Nah, the Cruiser is supposed to be a great symbol of the Confederate's power; as such, it needs to be heavy on the weaponry. That comes at the cost of speed. Oh well.

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
You're making plugs for EVN? Already?

Yup. I'd tell you what I was going to do, but I'd have to kill you afterwards...

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
Hey, I noticed you posted 8 things I said, and you said flat-out "No." to 7 of 'em. What's up with that? What did I ever do? Sheesh again.

Hehe, yeah, I actually thought to myself "Rawzer's gonna think I hate him" as I was typing that. Rest assured, it had nothing to do with you.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
Make a ridiculously expensive outfit (1 mil plus) that lets you had room for one fighter in your fighter bay. Takes up ten space.

First, I don't think you can do that without making the second outfit a similar bay. However, that is an interesting idea, just not one that I will use, as it would require adding something to the game.

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make the argosy a 1m credit ship, but change the turrets to proton and boost the stats somewhat, that way it's less of a jump to a corvette.

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Hey, on a side note, I just got a cool idea (not suggesting you do this). It would be cool if someone made different variants on a ship, but kept the graphics and names the same. That way, you a bit of variety and unpredictability when you attacked something, simulating custom modifications the captains might have made to their ships.

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Hey, on a side note, I just got a cool idea (not suggesting you do this). It would be cool if someone made different variants on a ship, but kept the graphics and names the same. That way, you a bit of variety and unpredictability when you attacked something, simulating custom modifications the captains might have made to their ships.

**

Hey, yeah, so if you attack a bulk freighter, sometimes it would lazy turn toward you and fire its feeble laser turret, but other times it would zoom off, then race toward you, unleasing 2 dozen space bombs, fly past you, and before you knew it, KABOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!

That would be fun.

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Please lower the prices on the confed patrol ship as well as the other upgrades you're doing on it. It seems odd to me that the inferior confed patrol ship (which never beats the manta 1 on 1) costs waaaaaaaaaaay more than the manta. Also, possibly the gunboat for similar reasons.

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Please lower the prices on the confed patrol ship as well as the other upgrades you're doing on it. It seems odd to me that the inferior confed patrol ship (which never beats the manta 1 on 1) costs waaaaaaaaaaay more than the manta. Also, possibly the gunboat for similar reasons.

**

The Gunboat and Patrol Ship are overpriced because more money is in the confederate government I would think. Either that or mburch wanted us to join the rebels.

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I think you should add some of skyblades graphics.

Ah, see, there is that "a" word again.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
Either that or mburch wanted us to join the rebels.

Of course, why else do you think the EV splash screen shows Rebel ships?

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