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Originally posted by ares1:
... several corporations would probably not be supporting them if they thought the cause was bogus.
Ever heard the saying "War is good for business"? If a company wanted to compete in a market already dominated by another corporation that was based in the Confederation, all it would have to do is align itself with the Rebellion. That would give it access to a whole new market where its competitors were banned since they operated from enemy territory.
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Originally posted by Luke:
A very hypocritical statement from basically any government in EV.
What do you mean by that?
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Originally posted by Luke:
I have never seen a Rebel ship attack an independant merchant. If a Rebel warship is next to a Confederation freighter, it will attack it, yes. Allied forces destroyed German convoys in the World Wars. Not very nice, but just part of war.
Where did I say the Rebels attack independent ships? I said they attack civilians. It's a quite different thing. Do you think a Centauri Spacelines luxury liner is a valid military target? Incidentally, there's a problem with your analogy here: the Allies weren't the aggressors.
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Originally posted by Luke:
The Confederation robs its civilians by a ludicrously huge amount of taxes. If it had sensible laws, it would go against them all the time.
Since all we know about the Confederation's taxes is that the Rebellion doesn't like them, I'm not sure how you can make this statement.
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Originally posted by Luke:
How don't the Rebels give their civilians personal freedom? There is no mention of their government good enough to suppose that they don't have a democracy.
I'm not talking about the way they run their own territory, but rather the way the acquire it. A rebellion is not a democratic movement - it doesn't represent what the majority of the people want, but rather what the best-armed people want.
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Originally posted by Mr. Moose:
In the opening part of the game it says that the 'Feds tax and denie rights to the outer colonists, sounds like the British and the Colonies. (And who won that war?)
Apart from the fact that the colonies that now form the United States gave much better justification for their claims than the Rebels ever have, there is one other major difference. Washington and his friends only wanted independence; they didn't cross the Atlantic, kill the King, imprison Parliament, and declare themselves rulers of the British Empire. It's fairly clear, however, that what the Rebellion wants is not independence, but control of the Confederation.
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Originally posted by KaBoomer!!!:
You know, the Rebells doesn't have any Argosys, Couriers, Light Freighters, Shuttlecrafts etc. like the Confederation does, and hence the 'Feds does not kill Rebell ships of that kind!
All this tells us is that the Rebels have a different administrative structure than the Confederation and don't require that civilian ships carry transponders. If Matt Burch had wanted the Confederation to attack civilians or the Rebellion not to, he could have set it up that way very easily - he did write the scenario and engine, after all.
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Originally posted by ares1:
It also suggests that Deneb simply broke away, possibly violently. Just because they succeeded does not mean the Confederation did not simply let them because they wanted. There could have been a pirate or rebel invasion, and then a withdrawl of troops, afterwhich the confederation never thought it was important enough to reclaim the planet as their own.
However, it's made fairly clear that just about every colonised planet was part of the Confederation during the Great War, and not only is there no hostility between the Confederation and the northern independent worlds, but there seems to be trade going on. Evidently, the Confederation has no problem with independence - it's when people start trying to take it over that it gets angry.
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