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    • Aliens lost the War?


      HOW!?!
      I mean these guys are awesome, a single ship can take out an entire fleet without breaking a sweat. I know that humans have "spirit" on their side and "determination." But how could that stop a single alien fighter? I would like to see a plug-in where the humans lost, that would be very interesting...

      Anyway, does anyone have a reasonable explanation to why the humans won?

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    • What exactly are you reffering to?

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    • If I ever finish the trilogy I'm planning, you'll be able to make the humans lose if you want. First plug in the planned trilogy is in development, see the link in my sig.

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    • Sometimes sheer numbers can outdue power..

      My guess would be that even though the aliens were strong, they were far smaller in numbers. We also assume that the aliens were destroyed.. I'm not sure it ever really says though that the alien homeworld was ever found..

      ~Iron Eagle

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      Originally posted by Macavenger:
      **If I ever finish the trilogy I'm planning, you'll be able to make the humans lose if you want. First plug in the planned trilogy is in development, see the link in my sig.

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      Now if you would just update the progress log...

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      Originally posted by Emperor Ent:
      Anyway, does anyone have a reasonable explanation to why the humans won?

      It's been quite some time since the Great War took place, so it's possible that the crew of the alien ships that show up ingame have been able to upgrade them significantly over the years (since they wouldn't have much else to do with their time). If that is the case, then the ships the Confederation faced might be a bit less powerful than the one you face.

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      Originally posted by Iron Eagle:
      My guess would be that even though the aliens were strong, they were far smaller in numbers. We also assume that the aliens were destroyed.. I'm not sure it ever really says though that the alien homeworld was ever found..

      It says "Within eight years, the enigmatic alien marauders were extinct.", which I think implies that if the aliens did inhabit their homeworld, it must have been found and de-inhabited. Of course, we know that one alien ship did survive, but from the text ingame, it appears that there's no reason to believe any others did.

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      Originally posted by Iron Eagle:
      **Sometimes sheer numbers can outdue power..
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      Star Wars and the supposed thousands of galaxies conquered by the Empire

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    • Oh. Um, probably because they might have invaded and not had enough time to really settle, so they took it to their advantage.

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      Originally posted by spl_cadet:
      **Now if you would just update the progress log...
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      Maybe I'm working too hard trying to get BfS III going for there to be a ton of measurable progress at the moment... 😉

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      Originally posted by Emperor Ent:
      **Anyway, does anyone have a reasonable explanation to why the humans won?
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      In the story I'm laboring to finish for the Chronicles - "Zero Moment" - I mention that Captain Jaxton Cottrell of the USS Churchill (the father of my protagonist Commander Lyda Cottrell) won a famous battle against two alien cruisers during the Great War...at the cost of his life, his ship, and his crew. The installment after next will explain exactly how. For now, keep in mind:

      (one) alien vessels have no armor to speak of, only powerful shielding

      (two) the effects of the Mutara Nebula in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. 🙂

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      Originally posted by Emperor Ent:
      **HOW!?!
      I mean these guys are awesome, a single ship can take out an entire fleet without breaking a sweat. I know that humans have "spirit" on their side and "determination." But how could that stop a single alien fighter? I would like to see a plug-in where the humans lost, that would be very interesting...

      Anyway, does anyone have a reasonable explanation to why the humans won?

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      I ask you this. Have you completed the Alien missions?

      Let's face it. You can, I can, everyone who's posted here can and has. Maybe 99% of the Confederacy would die about the Aliens, but the other 1% are too fast, too well trained, and just too good for the alien marauders.

      C'mon, two Rebel Cruisers teach the Alien Cruiser more of a lesson than you'd ever believe, if you actually watch. And Alien fighters may be able to threaten a starship, but how would they feel if you fired a catalist right into a pack of them? EV history doesn't have the same game restrictions EV does. <grins>

      Get bomb. Times by 100. Get big bomb. Fire big bomb. All die now. 😉

      Espy

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    • Go play New Horizons. I recall that it has an interesting explanation as to why the Great War ended when it did.

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    • In the latter part of 2000, I was working on a TC plug for EV called "Great War", which dealed with this war. I had all of these problems as well, here's how I solved them.

      The Aliens (which I renamed "Kurvaians", using the Polish word for "whore" and adding "ians" to give them some identity), lived north of THX-1388 in a little over a half a dozen planets. These were very far away, in another part of the galaxy, but a huge alien station harnessed space power to create a hyperlink between the Alien worlds and the Human worlds.

      Had my pluging been carried to full term, the human missions would have destroyed this station, cutting off the link from the ALien homeworlds to the human worlds, leaving only a small ammount of alien ships to be dealt with. The Confeds still used Mantas, even though Patrol Craft existed. I imagine that any campaign against an Alien ship would invole flooding it with dozens, perhaps hundreds of fighters, both Mantas and Patrol Craft (Patrol Craft have better shields, but nothing beats the effect of hundreds of speedy Mantas overwhenlming a target, even if it is with lasers). Eventually, the aliens would become "extinct" in our area.

      Of course, I made all of that up for a third party plugin, and it is probably not what the creators of EV were thinking. More likely, they imagined the Aliens as nomands with no homeworld, and by destroying their fleets we destroyed all they lived in, casuing them to become extinct for real.

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