Can I write a editor, or is there one allready?
If there isn't is there any legal stuff I should worry about?

I know ResEdit is good, but It can get on my nerves alot and I would like to know what people think of me making an editor. I will make one that is far more easyer to use then ResEdit.e.g. not having to put the weapons ID in for standard outfits.

I would like people to make suggestions and tell me what I should make easy that ResEdit makes difficult(or time consuming).

(This message has been edited by White Fire (edited 04-30-2001).)

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Originally posted by White Fire:
**I know ResEdit is good, but It can get on my nerves alot and I would like to know what people think of me making one.

**

Suffice it to say that the only other thing that has the versatiliy of Res-Edit (EV-wise) is quite possibly one of the buggiest programs available for the Macintosh. However, by looking under "utilities", you can get some various editors.

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"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake. " -Grand Master Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

I think a editor would be good for newbie plug-in makers like me, make it available form somwhere easy to access, like version traker. that way people can just download it easy.

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Originally posted by Dr Anteater:
I think a editor would be good for newbie plug-in makers like me, make it available form somwhere easy to access, like version traker. that way people can just download it easy.

I haven't started yet, dond't expect it to be out untill I've made sure people will download it. Otherwise version traker(Or some other download site) will take it of their site

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"He who enjoys the small things in life enjoys more things then he who doesn't" - Huw Rowlands

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Originally posted by White Fire:
**Can I write a editor, or is there one allready?
If there isn't is there any legal stuff I should worry about?

I would like people to make suggestions and tell me what I should make easy that ResEdit makes difficult(or time consuming).
**

There are editors, they all suck. There exists an EV edit 3.3 which is not available from the addons page, it is on the author's home page, at (url="http://"http://users.aol.com/burgr/evedit.html")http://users.aol.com/burgr/evedit.html(/url), I have not tried it yet.

For me, the most time consuming part of plugin editing is setting/changing resource IDs. If all you did was provide a way that I can move a misn resource from id 176 to id 325 and automatically renumber the descs without risking system crashes, that would be an improvement over the current situation.

Better would be changing the resource id of a ship, and automatically updating the 30 odd other resources. Currently, it takes me over half an hour to renumber a ship from someone's EV shipyard into my system.

Great would be a way to copy a misn, ship, or outf from one plugin to another, copying all related resources automatically and renumbering them as needed, without crashing my system.

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I'm not sure if I can ensure the stability of it. If you like, magicianeer, you can make sure that it is suitible for your standard. In other words, beta test.
I have not yet started to make it. I will make a 'public beta' for it to make sure any bugs or crappyness is lost in the final release.

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"He who enjoys the small things in life enjoys more things then he who doesn't" - Huw Rowlands

A new editor would be VERY usefull, especially one that allows you to add/delete sounds. I would be very interested in a new editor.

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Hey Andrew, how much do those Karma Sticks cost again?

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Originally posted by White Fire:
**I'm not sure if I can ensure the stability of it. If you like, magicianeer, you can make sure that it is suitible for your standard. In other words, beta test.
I have not yet started to make it. I will make a 'public beta' for it to make sure any bugs or crappyness is lost in the final release.

**

Sure, I'll beta test it.
I am even willing to patch the bugs in your source code if you make the code available (I can do Codewarrior C/C++, TCL, Perl and RealBasic on mac, but not applescript, python).

If the application crashed without taking my system down with it, that would be (barely) tolerable.

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Hmmm... I'm not that sure I can get it started in this month, maybe in june. I have a lot of work to do.

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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
A new editor would be VERY usefull, especially one that allows you to add/delete sounds. I would be very interested in a new editor.

This editor will be like a user friendly resource editor. But it changes the fifty odd things around the place, it will not be that easy to use without a manual or ResEdit expeirence, but once you get the knack you should be able to do pretty amazing things. If you want the graphics of ships then you will have to make the masks and possibley have to do it frame by frame.

I'm using REALbasic. It might be difficult for me to get the different strings of a resource melding with each other. It should be that stable

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"He who enjoys the small things in life enjoys more things then he who doesn't" - Huw Rowlands

(This message has been edited by White Fire (edited 05-05-2001).)

ev-edit is a good one, mine messed up because i totally warped the game. i re-installed ev and it's not having any more problems. ev-edit should be easy enough for you to use (if i can use it anyone can ;))

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I try to think but nothing happens!- Ultimate Rebel

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Originally posted by White Fire:
**Hmmm... I'm not that sure I can get it started in this month, maybe in june. I have a lot of work to do.

This editor will be like a user friendly resource editor. But it changes the fifty odd things around the place, it will not be that easy to use without a manual or ResEdit expeirence, but once you get the knack you should be able to do pretty amazing things. If you want the graphics of ships then you will have to make the masks and possibley have to do it frame by frame.

I'm using REALbasic. It might be difficult for me to get the different strings of a resource melding with each other. It should be that stable

**

Sounds good to me, I would beta test it if it were ready!!

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Hey Andrew, how much do those Karma Sticks cost again?

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Originally posted by White Fire:
**Hmmm... I'm not that sure I can get it started in this month, maybe in june. I have a lot of work to do.

This editor will be like a user friendly resource editor. But it changes the fifty odd things around the place, it will not be that easy to use without a manual or ResEdit expeirence, but once you get the knack you should be able to do pretty amazing things. If you want the graphics of ships then you will have to make the masks and possibley have to do it frame by frame.

I'm using REALbasic. It might be difficult for me to get the different strings of a resource melding with each other. It should be that stable

**

I'd love a new editor, res edit crashed yesterday, and it COMPLETELY screwed my plug-in.
not to worry though...i make backups everyday.

Some things are a pain to do in res edit, so i sometimes resort to ev-edit...and then spend hours trying to fix up problems.

I'd beta test it for ya! it sounds great!

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Originally posted by ChaosMan:
**I'd love a new editor, res edit crashed yesterday, and it COMPLETELY screwed my plug-in.
not to worry though...i make backups everyday.

Some things are a pain to do in res edit, so i sometimes resort to ev-edit...and then spend hours trying to fix up problems.

I'd beta test it for ya! it sounds great!
**

Screwed up your plug!! Is it still salvage-able, can you fix it? I hope you can, cuz that would suck if all the ship descriptions you had for me got deleted, hopefully it left all your descriptions, spobs, and other stuff in tact and just made the plug unplayable, don't worry me like this!!!

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Hey Andrew, how much do those Karma Sticks cost again?

Dudes, he said he'll get working on it in June. And he has work to do.
That means he will be working on it but only when he has nothing else he needs to finish.

Man, White Fire, set a deadline.

What are you going to call it, I like 'EVitor'.

Sorry about the handler, my browser didn't like the text for 'Username' or whatever it is.

I still like 'EVitor'

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Originally posted by Dr Anteater:
I think a editor would be good for newbie plug-in makers like me, make it available form somwhere easy to access, like version traker. that way people can just download it easy.

EV Nova will have a plugin editor.

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All jocks think about is sports. All nerds think about is sex. (Non-exact quote from Revenge of the Nerds)

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Originally posted by magicianeer:
**There are editors, they all suck. There exists an EV edit 3.3 which is not available from the addons page, it is on the author's home page, athttp://users.aol.com...gr/evedit.html. I have not tried it yet.
**

It sucks too, just not as much as 2.3 did

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All jocks think about is sports. All nerds think about is sex. (Non-exact quote from Revenge of the Nerds)

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
**It sucks too, just not as much as 2.3 did:)

**

EV editor did suck, the way governments can ally with them selves and take big bribes without taking bribes is stupid.

Mine won't have icons for dudes and stuff, it will be more like resourcer. But still little graphics unless you wan't ships, then you have to see the graphics.

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"He who enjoys the small things in life enjoys more things then he who doesn't" - Huw Rowlands

How 'bout we give White Fire a head start and make up names for it. EVitor is kind of unoriginal, so only Original names please.

I like Fenchurch, after Athurs girlfriend from the book Hitch Hikers Guide to the galaxy.

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Originally posted by Freddy Fish:
**How 'bout we give White Fire a head start and make up names for it. EVitor is kind of unoriginal, so only Original names please.

I like Fenchurch, after Athurs girlfriend from the book Hitch Hikers Guide to the galaxy.**

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I like Saskia, I know a girl named that and she's really pretty!!!

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