okay, I just started playing Uplink a little while ago. I'll spare you the sordid story of HOW I got started.

Anyway, I had a couple of questions:
- how do you break into proxy-protected servers? Like the n00b way? You can get Proxy_Disable, but I'm not keen on the bit where it says "you will be detected immediately." And You can get the Connection Analyser, but you gotta get the HUD Upgrade first, and it's gonna take a while to amass 20000+ creds.

- how do you get admin rights on systems OTHER than InterNIC? I see on this board that this is mentioned several times, but I have yet to find HOW.

- Does the IRC HUD upgrade work? I bought it and tried it, but it seemed to hang my Mac.

- what is the "multi-monitor" thing available from the main menu? (I think this has been discussed before; I'll go try to find it, but I figgered it couldn't hurt to ask again).

that's about it for now I think

Anam

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Originally posted by Anamacha:
- how do you break into proxy-protected servers? Like the n00b way? You can get Proxy_Disable, but I'm not keen on the bit where it says "you will be detected immediately." And You can get the Connection Analyser, but you gotta get the HUD Upgrade first, and it's gonna take a while to amass 20000+ creds.

It doesn't really immediately detect you; the best thing to do is to start the Proxy_Disable and as soon as someone starts tracking you start hacking the password. I once ran the Proxy_Disable for the whole time without being detected.

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- how do you get admin rights on systems OTHER than InterNIC? I see on this board that this is mentioned several times, but I have yet to find HOW.

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- how do you get admin rights on systems OTHER than InterNIC? I see on this board that this is mentioned several times, but I have yet to find HOW.
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Simply hack the password using Password_Breaker or Dictionary_Hacker.

thanks for the welcome, dragoon ...

well, yeah, I know how to get in using Password_Breaker etc. But when I disconnect the password is pretty much invariably revoked. I was referring to other people suggesting that one way to lengthen the timeone has in a system is to connect to the systems on which one has admin rights FIRST, and then keep connecting until you get to the system you're looking to work with. This implies that there's a way of RETAINING the passwords that Password_Breaker finds. Get me?

One more question -- how can you tell the version of ProxyServer and/or Firewall that a system is running? I JUST got the ConnectionAnalyser and am now PENNILESS. (er, credit-less?) I want to know how high a version of Proxy_Bypass I should go for -- well, as high as I can, of course, but I don't want to waste money instead of saving up for the next version.

I'm still mucking about with systems only Monitor-ed, still ... :frown:

appreciate the help!

Anam

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Welcome to the boards, Anamacha.

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Originally posted by Anamacha:
This implies that there's a way of RETAINING the passwords that Password_Breaker finds.

There is: bouncing through so many systems that by the time you're done with the machine and disconnect, the active trace hasn't gone through more than half the systems you bounced through.

Also, to avoid the admin passwords being revoked because you are traced through the machine, you should bounce first through any admin-machines you have, then other machines.

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One more question -- how can you tell the version of ProxyServer and/or Firewall that a system is running?

The highest version IP_Probe does that. But I usually save my money and buy v5 Proxy/Firewall/Monitor bypassers to begin with.

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- how do you get admin rights on systems OTHER than InterNIC? I see on this board that this is mentioned several times, but I have yet to find HOW.

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If you want Admin access for trace purposes. I find that by breaking a systems password but, not entering it, helps. I break the codes of a few internal services and government systems. That way I've got a few outlined boxes on my map and it seems to slow down the trace. Remember, servers only allow you to use them for this purpose a few times, it differs.

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**If you want Admin access for trace purposes. I find that by breaking a systems password but, not entering it, helps. I break the codes of a few internal services and government systems. That way I've got a few outlined boxes on my map and it seems to slow down the trace. Remember, servers only allow you to use them for this purpose a few times, it differs.

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Oh jesus! thats brilliant!

Thanks for that advice, completely brilliant by the way.

I've never been able to get many admin accounts and cant keep em for more than a few hacks.

Does anyone know a tried and true method for keeping your admin accounts, Does the use them first technique always work?

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Originally posted by suydam:
If you want Admin access for trace purposes. I find that by breaking a systems password but, not entering it, helps. I break the codes of a few internal services and government systems. That way I've got a few outlined boxes on my map and it seems to slow down the trace. Remember, servers only allow you to use them for this purpose a few times, it differs.

Ahhh! That's so obvious! No wonder I hadn't thought of it I was trying to worm my way in through the access lists, when I had time to spare inside a target system. Wasn't getting me anywhere. thanks suydam!

What, then, do the outlined boxes on the map mean? That you have admin access there? And what's the difference between those and the dotted boxes?

Anam

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What, then, do the outlined boxes on the map mean? That you have admin access there? And what's the difference between those and the dotted boxes?

Anam

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The ones with a solid line around them seem to be ones where you have a current, valid admin access. The ones with the moving dotted line are ones where you have some other valid access (like a bank where you have an account).

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Originally posted by Membrain1:
Does anyone know a tried and true method for keeping your admin accounts, Does the use them first technique always work?

I can't tell you what will work for you, but I can definitely tell you what works for me. I have an Elite rating and top hw/sw, but I remember the beginnings.

(minor SPOILERS FOLLOW!)

First of all - get a v4 log deleter. I even get it before I save up for the v4 trace tracker and do the first few missions without a trace tracker at all, since I have an estimate of how log it will take them to trace you.

As soon as you enter your new gateway, go to InterNIC and filter the host database for banks. Add all of them to your system. Manually connect to each of them and create your own account on that bank. Now you get a nice collection of server which you have client access to. You can use these to bounce your connections - always, without revocation. Then, get a few easy 1500c missions and find internal service systems of those machines. Bounce first through Uplink Test Server, second through InterNIC, and then through all the banks ending with the server to be hacked. Connect, run trace tracker, run password cracker. Crank up the processor utilization percentage for the password cracker (about 3 click - only to let the trace tracker running and a minimal pace of about 10%). Break the password and disconnect, without entering the system. Go back to InterNIC and delete the logs showing how you routed through InterNIC. Also delete the line saying you authorized and logged in, but leave the line saying connection was opened, since when you disconnect, another line with connection closed will appear in the log. If it would not match a connection open line, it would be suspicious.

Do this for a few Internal Service System. I now routinely route through more server I own admin on then the number banks that exist. I always route first through Uplink Test Server, then through InterNIC and then through all the other servers. Later on, when you get missions asking you to hack a Central Mainframe or LAN, you need to make the Internal Service System of that company your last hop.

Hope this helps. I lose admin account now only when I fast forward a little. I commonly route through ALL the servers on my map and never lose an admin sooner then about 24 hours after I hacked it.

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The ones with a solid line around them seem to be ones where you have a current, valid admin access. The ones with the moving dotted line are ones where you have some other valid access (like a bank where you have an account).

Thanks admo ... that makes sense ... I'll have to test that one out tonight

Anam

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