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      Read my (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/ellrx/info/ellleon.html")dialog on PNG graphics, 'Thrice a PNG'.(/url)

      "Computer science dressed up in a gorilla suit secreting NitrousOxide." -Chicago Tribune

      "Absotively posolutely, spell binding." -USA Today

      "riveting...simply riveting" -Wall Street Journal

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      lol the comedy stylings of ellrx return!

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      I guess I'm continuing my slide into old fogeyhood, as I was massively irritated by the effort required to make sense of the article.... ellrx, would you mind ever writing something in coherent, simple English? :frown:

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      I don't know what I'm talking about.
      Oh no, here comes another learning experience.
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      ::exhilirated, riding high atop his float, he waves to the crowd. Odd...he feels the pitter-patter of rain, looking skyward he spots a cloud...cumuloglennbus if i'm not mistaken::

      Ahhhh c'mon Glenn!!!

      I admit its different, but i figured hey i could just post something long and drawn out about;
      hexadecimal color, the history of the png graphic including its approval by the w3c in 1996, conversion from hexidecimal-binary binary to base10, the significance of the numbers;16,256 and 32767, offer a few formulas regarding how to calculate total bits, get into spacial sampling and registers...and then conclude with my grand finale on ...rambles on intelligently.

      Just trying to have a little fun there then yet...have you ever seen one of those silly Surgeon General filmReels, "warning you about the dangers of", "informing you about the effects of", "educating you in the proper use of" or to be specific my personal childhood favorite "abstinence is excellence".

      'sides its not an article man, its an edutain mental skit. Its a FAQ in disguise...something to take the edge off of learning and mastering a strange format. I wager many people(present at this very forum) have only come into contact with PNG over the past 18 months.
      Its a bit of relevent light-hearted whimsy.
      Not a technical-this is how you make a png, step 1. insert tab A into slot B-tutorial

      ::whisper:: by the way, (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/ellrx/info/ellleon.html")hold the mouse over the eLL' Wood Logo at the bottom of the page(/url)...i know, whoop di doo....i guess it was more fun to design it.

      Glenn i find you're remark to be a condescending,hurtful,petty,falsifiable cheap shot fired with the discretion of a blunderbus loaded with the shrapnel of selective memory...just for that i have enclosed the following segment;
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      For sterile information on the PNG format i would consult the following web addresses.

      (url="http://"http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/")official PNG birthplace(/url)
      (url="http://"http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/t/true_color.html")Webopedia Defines True Color(/url)
      (url="http://"http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PNG.html")Webopedia links on PNG(/url)
      (url="http://"http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/alpha_channel.html")Webopedia Defines the Alpha Channel(/url)
      (url="http://"http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/b/bit.html")Webopedia defines the bit(/url)
      (url="http://"http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/h/hexadecimal.html")Webopedia and hexadecimal together at last.(/url)

      you'll essentially find all the 'coherent' information on png's, 8bit transparency, color codes etcetera in the above links...now wasn't that keen.

      pbm {#|/%+--~!｡^( ro le )^｡!~'--+%|#} solved... Gigantic WINK.

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      ( EDIT ) critical subject verb prestidigitation, subjagation, postulation,palpitation followed by preemptive cardiovascular resuccitation and overall magnanimous transmogrification into the prolific specimen that you now witness....oh, i mean uhm typo...ooOo-a-oops. ::sirens:: Grammar Police ! run!!

      (This message has been edited by ellrx (edited 03-24-2003).)

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      Originally posted by ellrx:
      ::exhilirated, riding high atop his float, he waves to the crowd. Odd...he feels the pitter-patter of rain......

      Yeah, it is tough when somebody rains on your creative parade before the crowd has started to cheer.

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      Originally posted by ellrx:
      I admit its different, but i figured hey i could just post something long and drawn out about......

      No, I don't think you could if you tried. Admittedly, I probably haven't read enough of your posts, so it took me a while to start tasting the meat covered in such thick gravy. Perhaps that's the problem here, I didn't start out knowing what was on the menu. For a real palatal success, the chef might consider something a little less cordon bleu. Once digestion started, it was a gastronomic success. ~RD

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      My Doctor said I was having too much wine, women, and song - so I gave up singing because 2 out of 3 is not so bad.
      The (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/rduck/")Kingdom of Garendall(/url) sectional map is easily printed from gif format pages.
      Find those areas you missed the first time around. You'll want to explore those hidden areas now made accessible with Spells Expander.

      (This message has been edited by Rubber Ducky (edited 03-24-2003).)

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      Text in 00FF00 is just too bright for Monday morning.

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      Originally posted by Rubber Ducky:
      **No, I don't think you could if you tried. ~RD
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      ::flags the waiter::
      I'll try the duc ala orange
      ::returns the menu, turns face::
      That was just fowl...
      ::rim shot::
      What's the point in that remark...did it make you feel better,did it feel good to ya?
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      Axe, ah so you must be my 5am visitor, eh?
      Lol, correction #00cc00,i'll tweak the color later...how's a nice shade of 'forest moss' strike U?

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      Originally posted by ellrx:
      What's the point in that remark...did it make you feel better,did it feel good to ya?

      I guess I didn't include the appropriate smilies. The point was that your humor keeps bubbling to the surface even in your replies (including this one to me) and I find it hard to believe that you could stay serious long enough for an extensive answer. The "meat" of your dialogue was thickly covered. It took perceptive talents to uncover it. I am sorry that you seem to have read my analogy as critical, whereas it was intended to be analytical.

      No, it didn't make me feel better - it was suposed to make you feel better. As I said, once I got through the sauce the meal was enjoyed. ~RD

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      My Doctor said I was having too much wine, women, and song - so I gave up singing because 2 out of 3 is not so bad.
      The (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/rduck/")Kingdom of Garendall(/url) sectional map is easily printed from gif format pages.
      Find those areas you missed the first time around. You'll want to explore those hidden areas now made accessible with Spells Expander.

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      sorry...thoroughly paranoid...thanx much.

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      well i thoroughly enjoyed it even though some of the tech stuff i might have to stop and think about as i dont get stuff that linear the 1st time around. good stuff. i just pictured the storyteller as some old sage with some village kids around him and the rest was history. makes for a better read than the norm cuz as u posted above, the norm has been done several times and even your quick use of such voluminous vocabualary has me on guard sometimes. good stuff.

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      Originally posted by ellrx:
      I admit its different, but i figured hey i could just post something long and drawn out about;
      hexadecimal color, the history of the png graphic including its approval by the w3c in 1996, conversion from hexidecimal-binary binary to base10, the significance of the numbers;16,256 and 32767, offer a few formulas regarding how to calculate total bits, get into spacial sampling and registers...and then conclude with my grand finale on ...rambles on intelligently.

      You could, but who'd want to read something like that? 😛

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      Its a bit of relevent light-hearted whimsy.
      Not a technical-this is how you make a png, step 1. insert tab A into slot B-tutorial

      My fault, then. I was expecting and/or hoping for a helpful tutorial rather than mere light-hearted whimsy.

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      ::whisper:: by the way, hold the mouse over the eLL' Wood Logo at the bottom of the page...i know, whoop di doo....i guess it was more fun to design it.

      Hmm, all I find is a link in the center of the image - if you're talking about the brain-melting animation, the image does that all the time whether I hover over it or not.

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      Glenn i find you're remark to be a condescending,hurtful,petty,falsifiable cheap shot fired with the discretion of a blunderbus loaded with the shrapnel of selective memory...

      Didn't your mother tell you that you can never solve a p ro b le m by throwing adjectives at it? 🙂

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      **ahem,

      For sterile information on the PNG format i would consult the following web addresses.

      <snip URLs>

      you'll essentially find all the 'coherent' information on png's, 8bit transparency, color codes etcetera in the above links...now wasn't that keen.**

      Yep, lots of dry documentation there. Doesn't mean that there isn't still plenty of room for a helpful, readable tutorial about how to make and use PNG graphics with Coldstone.

      shrug

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      I don't know what I'm talking about.
      Oh no, here comes another learning experience.
      Oderint dum metuant?

      (This message has been edited by Glenn (edited 03-24-2003).)

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      dood! testicalation roolz! thanks for pointing it out. i was actually putting off making my tiles fit seemlessly because it seemed so tedius and a bit dreary. this shaven pear filter ownz joo!

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