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Originally posted by the Necromicon:
**I warned you because you asked the question again when you knew full well the answer. You knew that no matter how many times you asked the question, it would still not be answered, mainly because the question was under debate by Ambrosia and Beenox themselves. The fact that you posted while knowing the answer qualifies in my book as spam. The informationdrew releases to us is his and Beenox's business, if they wanted to they could have announced Coldstone the day of release, instead, the have offered as much information they believe they can without relating false information.
In my opinion, the information Ambrosia and Beenox have made available to us is very generous, in most cases shareware programmes have very little information on offer, count yourself lucky that they have told you this much. However, if a moderator believesI was wrong in warning you, then I will discuss it with them, and if we decide that I was wrong, then i will restore your Karma to it's previous ammount.
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Thank you to my right to a free trial. I took the liberty of collecting my past posts concerning this topic and their relevant responses. You can double-check if you like. I realize I have been persistent in this issue, that is merely due to the passion I have for game development. If you will look over this evidence, you will see that I wasn't given ANY information from a qualified source (one member just told me the beta testers wouldn't know), and my reason for asking for an altimatum, as party development is crucial to my storyline at this point. However, in Andrew's response to my last topic regarding this, I was inclined to drop it as I finally got an answer that I could live with: there is none. Please reconsider my warning, because I have a deep respect for Ambrosia and appreciate being treated in that same light.
Regards, Saphfire
Topic: Creating a party...
saphfire
member
Posts: 22
From:
Registered: Jan 2001
Karma: Clean (0) posted 02-23-2001 11:07 PM
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I know that Coldstone is still in Beta and you really don't want to give out information because it could change, but one critical point that many are interested in and is vital to preparation for this excellent tool is party and character development. Can we create parties? How will they work together? Will they all show up on the main screen? How many members in all? How many active members (fighting)? Can you form groups? How will you switch between them? Will they affect the world with charisma? Can they perform group actions to navigate a dungeon a la Final Fantasy 3? I am hoping for an unlimited member count, with a screen to organize parties and such, with charasma values and group actions. Please answer as many as possible.
~Saphfire
andrew
administrator
Posts: too many
From:Rochester, NY USA
Registered: Mar 99
Karma: divine posted 02-25-2001 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by saphfire:
Why, because we actually care about the product we're following? If you want the battles to be put to rest, give us answers, or give us a choice! Seeing as there ARE so many different views on how the battles should be fought and characters to be played, there SHOULD be freedom to choose your own. CGE won't satisfy everyone, but views on either side should be equally heard. With so many people on the same boat, we really do need extra freedom to make the games different. If not, it just seems like of Pillars of Garundell expansion.
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There will be exactly one battle system in Coldstone when we ship it; it will be something that we decided is the best balance available. People will bitch about it no matter what: some people will hate it, others will love it.
I'm just letting you know right now, there will not be the option to choose the battle system, so don't expect that there will be.
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Andrew Welch / el Presidente / Ambrosia Software, Inc.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
Author Topic: Coldstone...The Game Engine
saphfire
member
Posts: 15
From:
Registered: Jan 2001
Karma: Clean (0) posted 02-24-2001 11:19 AM
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There has been lots of controversy on this board over various things, and beta testers can do nothing but keep a stone face. Hot topics include the battle engine - "will it be realtime or turn-based?", the party development - "can we have multiple characters?", and what actually defines an RPG. Because there are so many different definitions and examples of how an RPG might play, including Baldur's Gate, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy, Diablo, etc....it seems only fair to hold context to a TRUE game engine - freedom. Not everyone has the same idea on the battles, characters, graphics, sounds, events, stats, etc...but they HAVE ideas. The creator should have the freedom to choose his or her own world and how it works. So please, answer this question, will Coldstone give users the freedom to choose party members and battle styles?
~Saphfire
andrew
administrator
Posts: too many
From:Rochester, NY USA
Registered: Mar 99
Karma: divine posted 02-24-2001 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by saphfire:
There has been lots of controversy on this board over various things, and beta testers can do nothing but keep a stone face. Hot topics include the battle engine - "will it be realtime or turn-based?", the party development - "can we have multiple characters?", and what actually defines an RPG. Because there are so many different definitions and examples of how an RPG might play, including Baldur's Gate, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy, Diablo, etc....it seems only fair to hold context to a TRUE game engine - freedom. Not everyone has the same idea on the battles, characters, graphics, sounds, events, stats, etc...but they HAVE ideas. The creator should have the freedom to choose his or her own world and how it works. So please, answer this question, will Coldstone give users the freedom to choose party members and battle styles?
~Saphfire
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True freedom would be you writing your own engine in C/C++ -- if you desire true freedome, there you go. With any more high level tool, there will be some compromises in what you can do, that's inevitable. I think you'll be quite pleased with the results you can achieve, however.
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Andrew Welch / el Presidente / Ambrosia Software, Inc.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
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