or did I just forget a peice?

Ok, so I start Nova and it loads a bit. Then I get a error message that says "error loading ship base sprite from PICT, shän ID 224". Uhh... I have all the files that the readme talks about and I have the update(1.2). I will post a debuglog but I warn you: It is quite extensive. Oh and I am working on a mac now because the converter wouldent work on the plug on my windows thing. I know there are quite a number of things missing that is why I ask if I forgot something.

debuglog:

EV Nova debug log

Output on 5/6/2006 at 0:46 AM

game engine was compiled Oct 16 2005
game engine version is 1.0.9 Carbon

opening data files & loading prefs
initializing monitor
getting available window positioning bounds
opening RezLib
main display at startup was 1024x768 / 32 bits / 75 Hz
switching to 16 bits
system software version is 1028
initializing QuickTime
building trig table
opening platform tool
opening file tool
opening draw tool
opening interface tool
opening registration tool
initializing arrays
opening data files
opening files in Nova Files folder:
Nova Data 1
Nova Data 2
Nova Data 3
Nova Data 4
Nova Data 5
Nova Data 6
Nova Graphics 1
Nova Graphics 2
Nova Graphics 3
Nova Music - failed or has no resource fork
Nova Ships 1
Nova Ships 2
Nova Ships 3
Nova Ships 4
Nova Ships 5
Nova Ships 6
Nova Ships 7
Nova Ships 8
Nova Sounds
Nova Titles 1
Nova Titles 2
Nova Titles 3
Nova Titles 4
Race 1.mov
Race 2.mov
Race 3.mov
Race 4.mov
opening files in Nova Plug-Ins folder:
Polycon Core 1
Polycon Core 2
Polycon Missions
loading sounds
creating window
main window rect: (21112, 134, -1824, -16385)
initializing sprite world
creating scratch frames
creating offscreen buffers
starting music
initializing strings
initializing status bar
initializing objects
initializing buttons
loading object data
warning: Krellre (131) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Denaz IV (145) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Kaitan (151) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Diploris (154) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Phantoonn (155) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Omegacon 7 (203) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Infinity Starsystems (206) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Iz Platform (211) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: U'u-la Mining (216) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Thorin Platform (218) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: P-X13 (221) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Vvrcker (232) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Mikhdon (268) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Union Pulsar (275) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Radikis (282) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Misq 2 (294) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Aquatr (303) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: TTP114L (332) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Ophata (343) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Mpphoria (358) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: Sarvir (370) lacks landing picture for stellar type
warning: assuming implicit reciprocal link from Procyon (1124) to O. Dargon (134)
warning: assuming implicit reciprocal link from Procyon (1124) to Polycon (187)
warning: assuming implicit reciprocal link from Procyon (1124) to Dead Zone (188)
warning: assuming implicit reciprocal link from Procyon (1124) to BF-01 (189)
warning: assuming implicit reciprocal link from Procyon (1124) to Omega Shipyard (190)
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warning: Intruder Bay (261) lacks outfit picture
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warning: outfit item 307 grants ammo to weapon 177, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 309 grants ammo to weapon 179, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 311 grants ammo to weapon 178, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 325 grants ammo to weapon 134, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 327 grants ammo to weapon 135, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 330 grants ammo to weapon 135, which doesn't use ammo
warning: outfit item 436 grants ammo to weapon 230, which doesn't use ammo
warning: Mantis (138) has 4 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Draconen Fighter (144) has a trade-in value of 870000 but costs only 480000
warning: Goa'uld Warship (198) has a trade-in value of -247927480 but costs only -1000000000
warning: Draconen Mine (199) has a trade-in value of 837500 but costs only 350000
warning: Obsopod (201) has 1 turreted weapon but its maximum is 0
warning: Parasite (224) lacks purchase description
warning: Parasite (224) lacks hiring description
warning: Raven (411) has 8 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 7
warning: Rebel IDA Frigate (414) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: disaster 128 (Population control) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 138 (A cave in) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 143 (Widespread normalisim) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 144 (Civil war) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 145 (A Norfarian rebel attack) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 149 (Decreased demand) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 150 (A bunch of fighting) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 154 (A monorail crash) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 156 (Gang warfare) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 160 (Magical power) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 161 (A host surplus) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 163 (A paranoid priest) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 164 (A new trade tax) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 166 (A government crackdown) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 174 (A special sale) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 178 (A mining accident) has an unusually small price delta
loading mission data
warning: mission 914 makes reference to nonexistent spöb resource 421
warning: mission 915 makes reference to nonexistent spöb resource 421
warning: mission 916 makes reference to nonexistent spöb resource 506
warning: mission 917 makes reference to nonexistent spöb resource 508
propagating mission bit effects
showing splash screen
loading sprites
error - bad sprite image size
error converting sprite to RLE, spďn ID 607
checking memory
loading ship sprites
error loading ship base sprite from PICT, shän ID 224

Any help?

-WonderBoy

Well I don't have Polycon at the moment but I suspect there should be more than 3 plugins. The only ones the log shows are Polycon Core 1, Polycon Core 2, and Polycon Missions. Where are the graphics files?

If I remember correctly, I had to copy the shan from an earlier version into the newer to get it to work. Though deleting the objecting shan will fix it until you come to a part where it is used.

Edit: Yea, you're missing files. You're supposed to have Polycon Core 1-3, Polycon Graphics 1-4, Polycon Missions, and Polycon Ships 1-2. Theres also a music file named Nova Music, but it isn't required.

This post has been edited by JoshTigerheart : 06 May 2006 - 01:21 AM

View PostAnubisTTP, on Mar 19 2006, 02:08 AM, said:

The shan 224 error is not a bug, it means that the graphics files are either missing or corrupted. I was having a big problem with people downloading the Polycon 1.1 update with the impression that it was the entire plugin, playing it, and then deluging me with emails about bugs and problems that were related to them not having the rest of Polycon installed. The presence of shan 224 in the updater ensures that the game bombs out with an error if you don't install the Polycon data files.

The ship that uses that shan is used at the end of the Robotic Plague string, so if it is deleted there will be errors.

Yay.

@wonderboy, on May 6 2006, 04:01 PM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

Oh and I am working on a mac now because the converter wouldent work on the plug on my windows thing.

It is not the convertor that does not work, it is you that does not work. Try having a look at my bright shiny new PC Plugin Conversion Tutorial. (Yay, I managed to use the tutorial for the first time, and work in a gratuitous Matrix reference. ) Note that in the case of Polycon, there's a pre-converted version already uploaded to the Addon pages.

Do you put the Polycon Files in the plug-in folder? It's a TC after all...

Jaca, yes, you are supposed to put the Polycon files in the Plug-ins folder, but that's not characteristic of a TC — it's much easier and more preferred to create NDät (data files) rather than overriding plug-ins, and replace the original data files with that of the TC.

I have all the files in the folder I have no idea why it doesent show them there. There are 12 files in the plug folder they are as follows: Nova Music, Polycon Core 1 Polycon Core 2 and Polycon Core 3, Polycon Graphics(it doesen't say it is Polycon Graphics 1) Polycon Graphics 2 Polycon Graphics 3 Polycon Graphics 4, Polycon Ships(again doesent say 1) Polycon Ships 2, and Polycon Missions aswell as the readme

@belthazar, on May 6 2006, 04:22 AM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

It is not the convertor that does not work, it is you that does not work. Try having a look at my bright shiny new PC Plugin Conversion Tutorial.

Wrong. I have converted many a plugin before. But just to be sure I will look at it anyway.

@belthazar, on May 6 2006, 04:22 AM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

Note that in the case of Polycon, there's a pre-converted version already uploaded to the Addon pages.

I diden't know that.

kitkut, on May 6 2006, 11:25 AM, said:

Jaca, yes, you are supposed to put the Polycon files in the Plug-ins folder, but that's not characteristic of a TC — it's much easier and more preferred to create NDät (data files) rather than overriding plug-ins, and replace the original data files with that of the TC.

Does that mean I can or can't put it in the Nova files folder(I did put it in the plug folder)?

It means that you rename "Nova Files" "Nova Files Original" and create a new folder called "Nova Files." Put the Polycon files in the new folder and it will work. That is the concept of a TC and all of them (Except Polycon for some strange reason) tell you to create a new folder in the readme.

I know that. I'm not entirely sure what I was trying to say there but I know how to replace the files and stuff for a TC, for I have done so with TCTC which was umm...quite interesting. but why doesent it reconise that I have more than those 3 files in the plug folder? Or muchless work?

@wonderboy, on May 7 2006, 03:59 AM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

Wrong. I have converted many a plugin before.

Wrong, schmong. I know with absolute certainty that the plugin convertor works on every part of the Polycon plugin, simply for the reason that I've done the conversion myself. Since the convertors that you and I have are both identical (unless you've been messing around with yours) it's thus reasonable to say that you're messing up somewhere.

As for why the other files in the folder don't load, what are their sizes? Are they non-zero? Are they .rez files? Did you download the 1.2 update?

me, on first post, said:

...I have the update(1.2)...

I dont have a decompiler so i cant have messed with the converter much less I havent tried to mess with the converter. and all of the files are non-zero the smallest one is 1.1 meg. For th e10 files(music not included nor the readme) the collective size is 86.5 MB (90,772,104 bytes)..... ARGH!! I just looked at the file types and all but the core files are of type "Document"... so thats why they dident load.... Great is there any way I can fix this? Open them up in EVONE and resave them as a plug format?

and addressing the converter problem I think I know what I did wrong; I had them in the wrong format(.zip or .sit whichever one is wrong). So sorry Belthy, if you would like, I can say that I was wrong and you were right but I dont think thats nessasary(sp?) is it?

@wonderboy, on May 7 2006, 11:18 AM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

So sorry Belthy, if you would like, I can say that I was wrong and you were right but I dont think thats nessasary(sp?) is it?

If you'd like, I could say "I told you so", but I don't think that's neccesary either.

But anyway, would opening the 'Documents' with EVONE and then saving them as a Nova plug work to correct this? Or did I just happen to find a bugged download mirror. Well either way I will try the opening and saving thing. Will post on wether it works or not.

(Later): Ok, sofar It doesent work to open it in EVONE and save it but I will try to get it to convert for windows Nova. Again I will post about the results.

This post has been edited by WonderBoy : 07 May 2006 - 04:26 PM

Ok so i forgot to post what happend when I tried to convert it. Here is what happend: The files were converted to a zero size file. All of then except a couple. I followed Belthys guide and thats what happend. Whats going on? Did I stumble across a corrupted download site?

Which files didn't work, and which files did? Did you make sure not to expand the final .bin files?

Edit: Also, so I can try for myself, where did you download the files from?

This post has been edited by Belthazar : 10 May 2006 - 04:46 PM

Oh I just found something thats interesting. There is a converted version of polycon on the list. I will check that out and post on what all the downloads I did were. Also I will tell you which files diden't work if you still wish.

@wonderboy, on May 13 2006, 07:09 AM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

Oh I just found something thats interesting. There is a converted version of polycon on the list.

Yeah, I said that in my first post here - and you replied to it. Make sure you don't forget the main part of the download - due to a small mishap while uploading, it's missing the "PC" from the file name which the rest of the PC Polycon files have. I've been meaning to seee if pipeline can correct it for ages, but I've never gotten around to it...

I think Pipeline has corrected that because I downloaded all of the (converted) files and it works fine on my Windows machine. Was it a critical part of the Polycon plug/TC thing? But I still don't know why it diden't work in the first place on the mac. I guess I will try downloading them again.

WonderBoy, on Im a moron, said:

Belthazar, on May 6 2006, 04:22 AM, said:

Note that in the case of Polycon, there's a pre-converted version already uploaded to the Addon pages.

I diden't know that.

Oops. I forgot about that.

This post has been edited by WonderBoy : 12 May 2006 - 11:47 PM

@wonderboy, on May 13 2006, 02:37 PM, said in Does Polycon not work?:

I think Pipeline has corrected that because I downloaded all of the (converted) files and it works fine on my Windows machine.

Where are you downloading the files from? Because the main archive on the Ambrosia Addon pages is still misnamed, and none of them include "(converted)".