Can someone/some people please summarize what some of the "major" soon to be released plugs are? By major I mean something that's generally known to be a "big" thing in the EVN developer's world.
Thanks!
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Some of the major plugs are:
()Starfleet Adventures (UncleTwitchy)
()Sephil Saga (Masamune, Neon Soldier, Psygnosis Adherent, Infinate, Cap'n Hector, iaqua, UE R&D;, Gage Stryker, me, anybody I left out?)Hope you enjoy 'em, and in Sephil Saga, play the Jovian string.
EDIT: Nevermind...I just learned something about Safari's cache!
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There is also a star wars TC on the way... it looks pretty cool too.
In addition to these so called "big" plugs there are a number of more secrative projects (deliberately so) going on due to the belief among many plug makers that advertisment is like macbeth to an actor: The most unlucky thing to do. Additionally it seems arrogant to many of us when people say "here is a whole bunch of stuff from my TC it is totally going to be released lol OMG." Plus many highly advertised plugs never end up finished, and soon turn to vapourware (this isn't a go at Sephill or anything by the way, I think that will be done).
So there are some out there that are underway, it's not like we're making them a total secret, because we're willing to talk a little, it's just that active advertising and 'teasers' seem to curse projects. Much better to release a final, complete product for people to enjoy.
Don't worry, there's some good stuff coming no matter what.
~A~
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There is also a star wars TC on the way... it looks pretty cool too.I wasn't sure if I should count that one, as I didn't know how many other people were looking forward to it. In any case, the official website can be found (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/macunderground/SWN/")here.(/url)
(edit)According to the percentages on the Log page, SWN is ~ 1/6 done.(/edit)
Anyhow, I've begun work on the backstory for my own TC, which, if I ever finish it, will probably end up being the intro screens/text/movie. This may be the most fun part of creating a TC.
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I know of one plug that adds a long string to the default scenario but i dont think i am supposed to talk about it. So I will leave it at that.
Sephil Saga will be incredible when it's out. Dont know how long that will be.
I have a TC i will never finish.
It will of course be swarming with crons (like a steak left out on the sidewalk in summer swarms with flies). Capitol ships will have poor shields, but strong armor, while fighters will have paper thin armor but shields almost as strong as capitolships. Fireing any kinda weapon will either use ammo or fuel, and all ships would have one of a variety of reactor/power generators. Players will be able to turn off subsystems to save power. In it the player will get to choose between working for one of the three main humanish factions (ones not quite human), atleast one true alien race, they'll be lotsa small strings, you can turn to evil and work ones way up to become a pirate feared throughout allied space, crimelord, or even (possibly unwitting) terrorist. It will need to use an AzDC, but i cant make my AzDC work.
Of course, this will never happen, because it will never be done, nor will it ever have its own graphics.
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(edit)According to the percentages on the Log page, SWN is ~ 1/6 done.(/edit)
**That piece of information not completely updated.
It's really hard to put a percentage on a project when you don't even know exactly what the finished thing will look like.
But I can tell you a little summarized story about Star Wars Nova.
We started about two years and a couple of months ago. Things went fast and the team quickly found a nice style that the Nova community encouraged. There were a few HUGE threads on the Nova board where people helped the team discussing everything from storyline and missions to design and graphics. This helped get the project started and a lot of work was done.At some time in the process we decied to move from the Nova boards and that gave us a lot of room, which in turn slowed us WAY down. That was inevitable. Time moved on and the different members of the team had stuff to do. Some had to start school and some simply didn't wan't to do it anymore. I've was gone for about 6 months last year.
But as things looked really bad, fresh blood was added, and things started to move again. After a while the projects seemed to come to a halt again, and so it goes. Work IS being done, and as it seems right now, we may have a shift in pace to the better.
You can all have you own thoughts about whether or not SWN will become vapourware in the end, but keep in mind that the project is still underway, and has been for more than two years now.
As to how far we HAVE come, I can only encourage you to come to (url="http://"http://forums.evula.com/viewforum.php?f=23")http://forums.evula....wforum.php?f=23(/url) for additional information.Have fun
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How come nobody mentioned Factions, German Planes of WW2, and Retribution?
Factions (by Starbridge42, Yomcat(I think) and a few others over on EV-Nova.net looks really promising. Lots of work being done on that one. You can check out the discussion topic here: (url="http://"http://www.ev-nova.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4522")www.ev-nova.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4522(/url)
Retribution is Azdara and UE R&D;'s project, which seems to be going good although the most info they've released about it is that they're doing it.
I admittedly don't know anything about German Planes. It's progress log gets updated occasionally, though, so I think it's still a go.
Check out the Upcoming Plug Ins list on EV-Nova.net. It should be pretty obvious which ones are still being worked on, just check out the Progress Logs forum.
Edit: And Azdara, you're damn right it will be done... I've put too many thousands of hours towards it to stop now! And it's moving back underground... with any luck you won't see/hear anything more about it (except the casual mention, of course) until it's released. Must avoid all bad ju-ju.
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No Comment Az... Besides a string add on is not really a major plug.
Oh and I think we can dig up some graphics if you need them so that your project can have something unique.
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This is the Factions web site (url="http://"http://www.nztuatara.co.nz/factions/")http://www.nztuatara.co.nz/factions/(/url)
Me, SB42, yomcat, Verb, and Guest, are the main people working on it.
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Retribution is Azdara and UE R&D;'s project, which seems to be going good although the most info they've released about it is that they're doing it.
There were a bunch of teasers that I (very discreetly) put up a while ago, but they're buried under a flood of old topics now. Azdara is right, publicity is the bane of plug-in development, so there will probably be no more for the meanwhile.
And thanks, it is coming along well. Especially the ships
and the storyline.There's no Retribution website. Want to know why? One web site to take care of and maintain is enough for me, and besides I have nothing that I would want to post there, anyways.
Well, take care all, and looking forwards to releases in the future.
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What is happening with rift? Last time I checked it it was around 700mb big, but I haven't been able to access there site for a while...
Has it gone dead? I hope that it hasn't as I was really looking forward to that tc.
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What is happening with rift? Last time I checked it it was around 700mb big, but I haven't been able to access there site for a while...
Has it gone dead? I hope that it hasn't as I was really looking forward to that tc.Rift was cancelled by its creator because of moral issues he (or she) was having. It was announced quite a while ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if people missed it.
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**Rift was cancelled by its creator because of moral issues he (or she) was having. It was announced quite a while ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if people missed it.**
Does anyone know anymore thant what he said in that post? That was so strange. "moral issues"?
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**And thanks, it is coming along well. Especially the ships;) and the storyline.**
Heheheh, thanks. Actually that reminds me, I should go finish off the Ore Frieghter before I forget.
I was writing an email to you about it, but I accidentally quit Mozilla... stupid of me, and you know how hard it is to rewrite something after you were half done. I was re-explaining by Macro vs Micro economics analogy (remember that?) in more detail and it was good, complicated stuff... I'll do it tonight.
It does look like there's some good stuff coming.
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Edit: And Azdara, you're damn right it will be done... I've put too many thousands of hours towards it to stop now! And it's moving back underground... with any luck you won't see/hear anything more about it (except the casual mention, of course) until it's released. Must avoid all bad ju-ju.I believe you! And I'm glad it's going underground, I'd prefer you to blast me away with a kick ass TC unexpectedly, as opposed to talking it up and having teasers. It's a lot better that way, don't you think?
~A~
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I did some search, but I saw Azdara's post, and I just had to read it. But here follows the sad, sordid tale of Rift:
Rift announced here, back in 2001: (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum9/HTML/001247.html")http://www.ambrosias...TML/001247.html(/url)
Rift canceled, sometime late last year, due to 'moralistic issues' with 'Rift' and elements within EVN. Or one could just rename the Spaceport Bars to something more of his or her liking: (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum9/HTML/004726.html")http://www.ambrosias...TML/004726.html(/url)
Just for fun: how many vapourware plugs can you spot in this thread (in which Rift is mentioned)? (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum9/HTML/001808.html")http://www.ambrosias...TML/001808.html(/url)
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Maybe in retribution we should teach the value of harmony, and the senslessness of violence and it's tragic consequences.
Of course. As they say, war is hell, but it's in this universe a necessary evil (of course, it's not a complete cure- a panacea, otherwise we wouldn't be able to...never mind :D). But yes, a main theme is forgiving somebody who...never mind, can't give too much away. That's not to say that there won't be armed conflict, just not too much gratituous violence. Wait, check that, there'll be a whole sh*tload of gratituous violence, but it won't be caused by you.
As Martin Turner quoted, most (or was it all?) poetry is about death, sex/love, and God. Hopefully, there's be a bit of all three in there making an appearance.
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**As Martin Turner quoted, most (or was it all?) poetry is about death, sex/love, and God. Hopefully, there's be a bit of all three in there making an appearance.**
All three eh? We could call it EVPr0n, using a governmental system of pimps. When you complete a specific set of missions, you get a pink Caddilac, buy the right licence, you can wear a fur coat and flares, and using cröns you can slowly get more and more women to work for you.
Or we could just go with the peace and harmony thing...
I should just shut up and get back to the ore frieghter, right?
~A~
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Wow...we're chatting on a webboard.
I say we leave the pimping to Masamune, if you know what I mean ;). Read the post in which he speculates on EV becoming a cash cow for Ambrosia :). We'll stick to peace, harmony, and planet-killers.
EDIT: PPC! And the post count adds up to 11! Does anyone care?!
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