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    • Possible replacement for ResEdit: Rezilla


      I've not used it myself, not being into plug developing and such, but I figure you folks here might find it handy:
      (url="http://"http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/bdesgraupes/DocHTML/rezilla.html")http://webperso.easy...ML/rezilla.html(/url)

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    • Well, it's all well and good (and I knew about this, using ToggleFork the guy made too, plus he's French), but NovaTools will only work with ResEdit. We don't want another resource editor, only this time for OSX (there are several of them to fill the gap and edit resource-in-datafork), as template editing is the most it could offer for us, and no one (not even ATMOS) made a Nova plug with bare templates, and we don't plan on learning. Now it seems it will to be able to be extended, but still someone has to make such extensions.

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      Originally posted by Zacha Pedro:
      We don't want another resource editor, only this time for OSX (there are several of them to fill the gap and edit resource-in-datafork), as template editing is the most it could offer for us, and no one (not even ATMOS) made a Nova plug with bare templates, and we don't plan on learning.

      Actually, we did. NovaTools only eventuated toward the end of the Nova alpha cycle.

      So stop whinging and get to it.

      Dave @ ATMOS Software

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      Originally posted by Zacha Pedro:
      **... as template editing is the most it could offer for us, and no one (not even ATMOS) made a Nova plug with bare templates, and we don't plan on learning. Now it seems it will to be able to be extended, but still someone has to make such extensions.
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      What's so hard about editing with plain templates? It isn't that tricky, you do need to keep notes elsewhere, but it's quite doable.

      Just buckle up and learn!

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      Originally posted by pipeline:
      **Actually, we did. NovaTools only eventuated toward the end of the Nova alpha cycle.

      So stop whinging and get to it.

      Dave @ ATMOS Software**

      Oh? Sorry. By the way, I made plugs with EV and EVO (I admit, there are only a few I uploaded, and these are not exceptional, but I did some nevertheless for my own use) with bare templates (hated EV-Edit very soon, never got my hand on anything else before I was fluent with template editing), it just seems to me I won't be able to return to using them for Nova. My point is just that an OSX resource editor can be useful, it's just not what we're looking for (there are several, thrust me).

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      (This message has been edited by Zacha Pedro (edited 06-14-2004).)

    • I tried Rezilla and I thought it wasn't very hot. In fact I haven't found any resource editor for OS X that was very great. I've been tossing around the idea of writing my own. If I were to do that, what features would you like to see? (Dont' say NovaTools support - I've heard that ResKnife has some preliminary support for that, which I would have thought impossible as NovaTools was written for Classic, but I will check out the source of ResKnife and see what I can find)

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      Originally posted by Aranor:
      **I tried Rezilla and I thought it wasn't very hot. In fact I haven't found any resource editor for OS X that was very great. I've been tossing around the idea of writing my own. If I were to do that, what features would you like to see? (Dont' say NovaTools support - I've heard that ResKnife has some preliminary support for that, which I would have thought impossible as NovaTools was written for Classic, but I will check out the source of ResKnife and see what I can find.
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      In an OS X resource editor I would like to see template support as well as the abillity to make custom resource editors (like NovaTools). If possible, viewers/editors for standard resources like PICT, STR , STR# and maybe cicn would be great. Also the ability to change file attributes (specifically type and creator codes) would be very useful. I'm not sure what kind of features you're thinking of or are able to do but basically all I want to see is an OS X version of ResEdit.

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    • On of the thing that's definitely useful in ResEdit is the ability to have (almost) as many open windows as you wish. That way, you can fill a shïp resource while looking at the weapon list to know instantly which number to enter for which weapon.

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      The (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/tshirts.html")1337 EV Nova T-shirt(/url)(url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum25/HTML/000003.html#ZachaPedro05-18-200409:42AM") (/url) - 22$. The (url="http://"http://w00tware.ev-nova.net/")NovaTools(/url) by wOOtWare to tinker with your Nova - FREE!
      The feeling you're a Nova geek - priceless.
      There are things money can't buy or that are free, for everything else, there's indeed Mastercard.

    • You know what I want to see? I want to see Apple run ResEdit through Carbon Dater and Carbon-ize it. Unfortunately, I doubt that'll happen.

      Yes, I am aware there is more to it than that.

      Aranor: You should have the NovaTools editora built-in. Maybe a setting in preferences for whether or not to use them (in case you're editing an EV/O plug-in).

      Also, it appears to me that ResKnife has TMPL support, but I don't know about RSSC. I'll see.

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