I was just thinking about George Orwell's 1984 when I thought "How cool would it be to make an EV plug for it?" It'd have to be a TC, no doubt. Including Oceania in the west, Eurasia in the North, Eastasia in the East, and Africa (a jumble of independent states with minor governments constantly being fought over by the three major powers) in the South. All of the governments would have different ships, but the same technology, because in the book, they look different, but are technological equals.

You'd start out in Oceania with a shuttlecraftish ship and weakly hated by one of the other governments (whichever is not the ally of Oceania). By trading and raiding independent freighters, you climb the chain of command in Oceania until they let you buy fighters/warships. You could defect at any time by killing Oceanian ships and gaining the respect of the other governments. They constantly shift who's at war with whom (can this be done in any of the ev's?). I don't know how it ends, because it couldn't end like the book...(I won't spoil it for those who haven't read it.)

Anyways, what does everyone think?

P.S. I put this in EV:O boards since I'd make it in EV:O because of the better engine than EV:C and the simplicity compared to EV:N. If a moderator would rather it in Developers' Corner, that's cool.

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That's a brilliant idea. I've only read part of the book. Now I'm going to go finish it.

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Sorry, I forgot to include that 1984 is a geo-political fiction written by George Orwell in 1948 (published 1949). It's a speculation and forewarning of what the world would be like in 1984 (last two digits of 1948 switched around) if the world accepted communism/fascism and democracy deteriorated in Western Europe and the Western Hemisphere.

It's one of my favorite books by one of my favorite authors. It's not a tough read (I'd say about a ninth grade (14 yrs old) reading level), and depending on the size of the book you buy, 200-350 pages long. I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys politics and/or reading 'classics'.

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I've read the books and it sounds like a very nice idea

Good idea, but either get rid of the independant states or make them have pathetically weak ships. When you're caught in the middle of three warring superpowers I doubt any state would last long, and the only way to survive would be to let the other governments just walk over your territory and use it as another battle-front, and therefore the state would have practically no resources or power, and would therefore have either a completely crap or non-existant military.

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Nifty idea, but yeah, this would be better suited for the Dev board. iMove.

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Originally posted by AngelB:
**... 1984 is a geo-political fiction ... communism/fascism and democracy deteriorated in Western Europe and the Western Hemisphere...

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I just wanted to point out that 1984 is indeed geo-political fiction, and not galatio-political fiction. Adapting 1984 's world to Nova's galactic engine seems to me illogical. Also, one of the key aspects of Orwell's Earth was the inability of anyone to change anything. As Nova campaigns tend to be centred around effecting galactic change, 1984 and Nova appear to me to be fundamentally at odds.

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(This message has been edited by Angel (edited 07-12-2003).)

Wow... for a second there it looked like you were arguing with yourself Angel... By the way, you should figure out something cool to do with the "Ĺ" symbol for your sig, it's practically a law.

Angel and AngelB. Who stole who's name? I hate that stuff, like that guy Adzy, that gave me the ****s. One of you should get a new handle.

About Orwell's book... no, I don't think it could work. What could work is something based on the concept, with large, powerfull and all dominating states in a nova sized world, you know, big cities, big ships and massive conspiracies. That would be cool, but actually trying to put 1984 into a plug... no, that would be an insult to the book.

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Originally posted by Angel:
**I just wanted to point out that 1984 is indeed geo-political fiction, and not galatio-political fiction. Adapting 1984 's world to Nova's galactic engine seems to me illogical. Also, one of the key aspects of Orwell's Earth was the inability of anyone to change anything. As Nova campaigns tend to be centred around effecting galactic change, 1984 and Nova appear to me to be fundamentally at odds.

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no, it'd be great, because whenever you completed one government's mission string you could do another, and then the third, and then you could do the first one all over again etc, and voila! Infinate gameplay!

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Heh, it looks as if Angel has been on these boards longer than I have, but this is my original nick from irc.mechwars.net where this nick has descended from several others over a three year period. The "B" is simply for me, not so I could reg a copycat name.

Anyways...Zax, your idea is good. While I don't think you should be able to go in a continuous circle, there should be branching missions. ie- a defector from oceania with a rank of "historian" would be different string than a defector with a rank of "Upper Party Council member" or something like that.

Angel: I believe that this could be implemented as a Nova scenario easily. The whole EV group of scenarios have, indeed, been attempting change in the galaxy, but never achieving it. I've just started playing Nova, but from what I've seen, there's one key aspect missing (if it isn't missing, then I need to modify this statement). The changing of governments by a system (as a show of control of the galaxy) is not allowable by Nova. While this works with EV's idea of a never-ending game, it works against its ideas of galactic dynamacy and change. Because in the world in 1984 , there is no (actually, there is, but it's very little) change, this would suit it perfectly to the game.

Zax-in response to your first post, yes, I agree that the central (African) systems would have ineffective ships (i'm thinking a mix between the militias of EV:C and the Emelgha of EV:O, small, dedicated fighters with a few light capital ships they manage to steal and perhaps a powerful gun or rocket against armor)

So, I've said enough, don't wanna smother the creativity here.

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Originally posted by AngelB:
**...The whole EV group of scenarios have, indeed, been attempting change in the galaxy, but never achieving it. I've just started playing Nova, but from what I've seen, there's one key aspect missing (if it isn't missing, then I need to modify this statement). The changing of governments by a system (as a show of control of the galaxy) is not allowable by Nova...
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Keep playing. Nova is more versatile than you think.

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