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      The next version of Advance will include this Emalgha Carrier. It's a serious threat for a Voinian Frigate, though the frig will usually win. It's also rather rare in the Emalgha fleet so as not to upset the balance.

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      Any comments? Does it look too sleek to be Emalgha?

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    • Heh, that's cool. You've done a good job of keeping it similar with the original Emalgha models. Nice work.

      My only advise would be to smooth the gray areas... they look somewhat like gears strapped to the hull.

      What 3D application did you use?

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    • Nah, the gear look is good - I don't know about the ones in the center, though. the notches get streteched such that they're sort of oblong.

      Also, try changing the striations on the wood pattern in the center unit to a horizontal direction, to make them more noticeable. It looks sort of mushy.

      Something to think about: given the trade/technology agreement between the U.E. and the Emalgha by the end of EVO, wouldn't it make sense for their next major ship line (especially if there aren't going to be many made and they'll be the flagships) to be ironclad? I don't really know how wood would hold up on a larger ship design - the freighter/frigate was pretty tiny.

      -reg

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    • The gear look was already present in the Emalgha Freighter -- it just didn't show in the tiny gravelly EVO graphics. 😛

      I used Infini-D, which allowed me to import the textures, the cockpit and the nacelles from the original Emalgha freighter.

      The wood does look a bit crappy... but then, using wood for a spaceship is utter folly anyway. :rolleyes:

      Currently, I don't have them bound to the UE-Emalgha mission string. It would make lots of sense though. Too bad I suck with missions. :frown: Still, I wouldn't depart from the wooden look -- it's the very essence of Emalgha shipcraft. That, and suckiness. 😉

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    • It's nice, except I think it should be well able to take on a Voinian Frigate, as the poor Emalgha don't ever have a fair advantage.

      -Lequis

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    • True, the Emalgha really don't have a fair advantage over the Voinians. But that's an intentional part of the EVO game balance -- the Emalgha are supposed to suck until the UE helps them out.

      By the way, I've made a beta version of Advance available on my site, including the new Emalgha Carrier. The link is in my sig.

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    • Consider that the Emalgha probably don't have the resources/luxury to create a new ship design until after the joint Emalgha/UE offensive during the game, at which point they can hold the Voinians at bay while taking advantage of UE technologies. Also, I think you can retain the Emalgha aesthetic while changing the texture. The shapes will still be the same.

      But hey. It's your plugin, and at least you bothered to release the thing. Keep it up 🙂

      -reg

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    • interesting. a bit too simple for my liking...and the "wood" texture is so incredibly big, that it looks more like a fighter

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      Originally posted by Cinga:
      **The next version of Advance will include this Emalgha Carrier. It's a serious threat for a Voinian Frigate, though the frig will usually win. It's also rather rare in the Emalgha fleet so as not to upset the balance.

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      Any comments? Does it look too sleek to be Emalgha?
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      Pretty good, although the center part of the carrier looks a bit ... wide.

      Anyway, very good job, and here's (url="http://"http://uepatriot.mybravenet.com/emalgha_carrier.jpg")my depiction of an Emalgha carrier.(/url) It does not look as "Emalgha" as yours, but still, use it for inspiration if you want to...

      God bless,

      UE Patriot

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      Originally posted by UE Patriot:
      **Anyway, very good job, and here's my depiction of an Emalgha carrier.

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      Interesting. Sort of a hybrid design. I'd go for an Emalgha shape with metal textures , though. Maybe dented and rusty, to maintain the Emalgha grunge-factor.

      If the Emalgha government would authorize a clone of the UE Carrier with inferior hull plating (wood vs. metal) well, jesus. Why not just buy a bunch of UE Carriers proper for the Emalgha fleet?

      -reg

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    • I think that it would be cool if the Emalgha redesigned their ships. The UE could help them, thinking logically... 😛

      -Lequis

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    • Hi. New to this webboard, but I've got a thought that you may be interested in. A while back, I managed to link (rather weakly) the EV/O and EVN storylines. But, my point is this: I was always ticked at EV/O because when you led the Zidigar against the Azdgari, or the UE, Emalgha, and Hinwar against the Voinians, you never actually won the war: you took out a few planets, destroyed most of their fleet, but you never actually conquered them. Well, my basic storyline kind of allows for that.
      Here it is:
      In the Year of Our Lord 2187, an alien race known as the Emalgha successfully completed an attack against the Voinians in concert with the United Earth Government, capturing Romit Station and Avann Outpost.
      Soon afterward, another race called the Hinwar rebelled against their Voinian masters, and captured two systems and four planets.
      In 2189 A.D., a carefully planned series of attacks by the U.E. Fleet, the Emalgha, and the Hinwar defeated the remainder of the Voinian War-Fleet and decimated the Voinian Empire. The final target was Voinia itself.
      A small remotely controlled U.E. Shuttle packed with a super-massive nuclear fusion bomb latched itself onto the center beam of Borb Station, exploded its payload, and sent the station crashing down into the planet below, eliminating all life on Voinia. Three ships were noted jumping out of the system, but were assumed destroyed.
      In the treaty drawn up after the destruction of the Voinians, the U.E. Government got all but four of the systems, which were split evenly between the Emalgha and the Hinwar. These two races decided they hadn't gotten their fair share, and revolted in 2195, capturing about half of the former Voinian Empire, splitting it up evenly between the two races.
      The United Earth Government promptly declared all-out war on them. Neither the Hinwar or the Emalgha had a chance.
      They were exterminated systematically, leaving the empty planets behind for colonization by the end of the 'war', in early 2196.
      The United Earth Government now concentrated on the worlds to their South. They brought their full military might down upon these people, and destroyed them by 2198. They also 'agreed' to 'protect' the many Independent worlds in that area, and destroyed those that resisted.
      The Strandless peoples to the Galactic South, including South Tip Station, formed an organized resistance, but they couldn't stand against the U.E. onslaught. They were exterminated in 2202.
      Now the U.E. Navy paid many mercenaries to go up to the Miranu and Strand worlds, and either capture, buy, or steal examples of their ships and technologies. Of course, the highly-paid individuals succeeded.
      Between 2210 and 2213, the U.E. Government took these designs, devised extremely effective countermeasures against them, and improved useful technologies.
      When the attacks finally came in 2215, the Miranu and the Strands didn't stand a chance.
      Even though the Miranu abandoned their worlds to the North and East, and sent all the Zachit and Militia forces against the U.E. War-Fleets as a delaying action to try and get the U.E. Government to give up, the U.E. War-Fleets still punched through to the undefended worlds, quickly destroying their shipyards and industrial facilities. In this way, the U.E. Fleets disabled the Miranu worlds, eliminating resistance.
      Mira was destroyed a week afer the attacks started, and North Tip Station, Outpost Zachit, and New Mira a few days later.
      Now, having annihilated the Miranu and the Strandless, the U.E. Warfleets concentrated on the more dangerous Strands, destroying one at a time. They started with the Zidigar.
      Of course, neither the Azdgari or the Igadzra offered any assistance to the Zidigar, and were actually glad to see their millenia-old enemy destroyed, their ships burning wrecks, their worlds airless molten lumps of rock and metal.
      This is exactly what the U.E. Admirals were hoping for. They had used the centuries-old tactic of divide and conquer.
      Now, they worked on the Azdgari. By this time, the two remaining Strands had gotten the idea of what was going on, and temporarily united.
      But even this could not stop their destruction. As they had been fighting the same war with the same strategies and weapons for millenia, they couldn't adapt to the newer and different U.E. weapons and tactics.
      They were both exterminated at around the same time, in late 2218.
      Finally, the U.E. War-Fleets converged on the Gadzair system in 2219, in an attempt to find out what exactly the Galactic Council really was. They blasted their way into the station, and, after exploring it in its entirety, not finding anything that terribly interesting, promptly destroyed the station.
      In 2221, a famous U.E. Admiral named Gregory Levy took his underpaid, very experienced, and extremely loyal fleet into battle - against the U.E. Fleet. He won, and in 2225 captured Earth, and proclaimed himself Emperor Augustus Gregorius Cćsar of the Terran Empire.
      Not much happened for a few more centuries, except the dispersal of the Proxima and Ji Nebulas and the strip-mining of the North Tip Asteroid Belt.
      Around 2700, Omata Kane was born. She really doesn't deserve all the credit she gets: contrary to popular misconception, she did not develop the HyperDrive technology, which was actually designed by a scientist named (insert good name here - that's the one thing I'm not good at, picking character named) around 2050. However, Omata Kane did completely redesign the HyperDrive, allowing larger ships to jump faster, farther, and with much more precision than ever before. Along with that, she designed and built the Kane Belt, and those highways of interstellar travel, the HyperGates, capable of transporting thousands of ships simultaneously from any point in the Galaxy to any other. Because of her developments, a great portion of the Galaxy was colonised, most of which was previously unaccessable.
      In the early part of 2187, the Voinian Emperor realized that he wasn't going to win that war. He was a rather peaceful, gentle person, who inherited the war as part of his reluctant acceptance of the throne.
      He tried to stop the war with the agreement that lead to Pax Station, but that failed due in part to the U.E. Government and their ship captains, and in part to his own captains, who constantly picked fights with the U.E. ships, until the war was re-declared.
      After the capture of Romit Station, he delivered an order to the commander of Avann Outpost to destroy his station at the most opportune moment, in an attempt to forestall any U.E. advances, and destroy as many of their ships and men as possible.
      The Voinian Empire had officially gone on the defensive.
      The Voinian Emperor now committed his fleet to holding off the Allied threat as long as possible, and threw all remaining resources - and then some - into Hyperspatial research.
      Eventually, three ships were outifitted with special HyperDrives: two Supply Ships and a Frigate. They were one-time-use engines, designed to carry them far away from the human-dominated part of the galaxy, to a Voinia-like system, and allow the remnants of their society to regain their supremacy.
      Eventually, the humans expanded around them.
      The Polarans came in contact with a race which destroyed all human ships they met.
      Some Polaran captain with a particularly poetic turn of mind called them the Wraith (Demons) of the Stars. The name stuck.
      Now, the New Voinians, as the 'Wraith' call themselves, are well on their way to their goal of being capable of destroying humanity with a single blow...

      I just thought that you might be interested in the basic storyline. Also, I'll see if I can get QT over here sometime, as he came up with a rather interesting re-do of the Emalgha. They actually ended up being the most advanced race in the galaxy, with these wonderful, fast, maneuverable, incredibly ugly ships that used anti-matter cannon - an interceptor could destroy a frigate within seconds, and a good bomber pilot could take out a Dreadnought with ease.

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      Originally posted by spacecowboy:
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      Great story there... joins the two games very well considering they weren't designed to be joined 😛

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      Originally posted by Mazca:
      Great story there... joins the two games very well considering they weren't designed to be joined:p

      It sort of begs the question of why you'd bother, though. Things To Come tried doing that with the original EV and EVO storylines, and failed pretty miserably.

      Well, nice try, I guess.

      -reg

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    • Thanks for the compliments. Funny thing is, I can't really remember why I came up with it in the first place... Something along the lines of people were constantly arguing in this one thread about whether EV:O and EVN were continuous, and I just tried to solve it. I see QT hasn't managed to get over here, but I'll be seeing him tomorrow and will kick his butt in gear. Oh well.
      (edit) The thing that irritated me most about EV:O was that the story never really finished. I think that's one of the main reasons I wrote it. Just to give the story an ending. I mean, you might take out a few Azdgari planets, capture Romit station, and free the Hinwar and the Huron, but the Azdgari were still alive and well, the Voinians still attacked the Freight Couriers along the UE Frontier, and the Huron were still fighting for their lives against the Renegades. I just like things a little more clean-cut, with less loose ends. (/edit)

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      (This message has been edited by spacecowboy (edited 02-10-2002).)