Hi guys. Just showing off the finals for two of the Atinoda Corp's "Warbird Series". Todays renderings are the final form for the Raptor and the Kestrel. And I apologize to Evula, I know you are partial to the Kestrel having the winglets, but in the final build I just gave up trying to incorporate them. With the Kestrel's new look they didn't fit very well in the design.

Just click on the link below to see the ships. (url="http://"http://www.grand-novice.com/index.shtml#News")http://www.grand-nov...ndex.shtml#News(/url)

Enjoy, and hope you like the ships.

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Well....I think they are well-made, and the raptor is gorgeous (if still a bit plasticey, but that works for a commercial ship), but I too am partial to the old Kestrel design, in more than just having winglet fins.

The Kestrel has always had a particular set of characteristics: long, thin hull, short wings that are more like fins whatsoever, the pointy front, the dark grey, and the graphic that couldn't even possibly fit two lightnings into it ;). I myself think that these characteristics are missing...the wings look larger, more wing-like, and of course the color is different (which is alright). Also, it's wider. The Kestrel is by tradition skinny. See how you made the rear part, even not counting the wings, wider than even on the Raptor? To me, it's just not the Kestrel.

Don't get me wrong, it's good work from an objective standpoint, but to me it does not capture the essence of the Kestrel. In my opinion, it just differs to much.

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**Well....I think they are well-made, and the raptor is gorgeous (if still a bit plasticey, but that works for a commercial ship), but I too am partial to the old Kestrel design, in more than just having winglet fins.

The Kestrel has always had a particular set of characteristics: long, thin hull, short wings that are more like fins whatsoever, the pointy front, the dark grey, and the graphic that couldn't even possibly fit two lightnings into it ;). I myself think that these characteristics are missing...the wings look larger, more wing-like, and of course the color is different (which is alright). Also, it's wider. The Kestrel is by tradition skinny. See how you made the rear part, even not counting the wings, wider than even on the Raptor? To me, it's just not the Kestrel.

Don't get me wrong, it's good work from an objective standpoint, but to me it does not capture the essence of the Kestrel. In my opinion, it just differs to much.

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The new Kestrel design has 2 engines as well while the Raptor has only one, which also accounts for it's breadth in the rear. You should see them in flight though. I may post some sprite shots after work. I need to get going to my job in a minute. And the new Kestrel looks more than big enough in sprite mode to house two fighters, though I may add a ventral docking bay to the model.

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Oh well, I still think they look really good; I'd like to see the sprites compared to one another, right now they look almost the same.

Also...gah...its EVula, not Evula. You can make it up to me by making the Atinoda EVula Light Fighter, with little winglets.

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(This message has been edited by EVula (edited 10-30-2001).)

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Originally posted by EVula:
Oh well, I still think they look really good; I'd like to see the sprites compared to one another, right now they look almost the same.

Indeed. I'm assuming that the two sprites will actually have a much greater size difference in-game than they have on your website? Or have I completely gotten the wrong end of the stick?

Personally, I think they could do with a bit of minor texturing, just to get rid of the 'plastic' look, but if that's what you were going for, then you've done a pretty fine job.

(quote) **Also...gah...its EVula, not Evula.;)

Cookie @ ATMOS

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Hum. I really like the design for the fighter, but the kestrel looks almost exactally the same. Also, I don't mean to be rude at all, but they look kind of... novicetastic... if I may use your name is such a blatant pun. I know your style has always been really cool looking and not mega-detailed at the same time, but these ones are a little sub-par...
-david-

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(Edited because that Submit button is just far too temping to hit far too soon.)

(This message has been edited by Meowx Design (edited 10-30-2001).)

I'll just say nice work again and let the experts talk about the detail.

Although I do have a theroy that whenever the name PaleShadow shows up at the bottom of the forums, it is a sign that Matthew has posted something here on the Dev. Board. Hell, it could just be me, but I'll go with the theroy a bit.

Whitehawk

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I agree that the ships look a bit too similar, and that I miss the old kestrel design.

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The Raptor is a corvette not a fighter, and the Kestrel is an escort frigate. The sprites sizes are 56x56 for the Raptor and 72x72 for the new Kestrel.

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Oh and sprites have been posted here...
(url="http://"http://www.grand-novice.com/index.shtml#News")http://www.grand-nov...ndex.shtml#News(/url)

And with all the outpouring I'll see if I can get a new Kestrel design with a single rudder and stabilizers...

And I know I'm not the best at complex human/mechanical designs, but you must admit I'm good at organic and alien stiff...
(url="http://"http://www.grand-novice.com/news.html#Klaxion")http://www.grand-nov...ws.html#Klaxion(/url)

Also - the tail section of the big larva is what the new bridge looks like on the Klaxion capital ships...

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