The only thing I am worried about is if they don't do shareware.
One of the things that kept me from buying ferazel was that I would have to order and wait a long time for it. I much prefer e-mail the company for a reg-code after giving them my credit card #. It's just so much simpler and faster.
If EV3 is commercial, it better be really damn good (better than ferzel) if i'll buy it...
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**The only thing I am worried about is if they don't do shareware.
One of the things that kept me from buying ferazel was that I would have to order and wait a long time for it. I much prefer e-mail the company for a reg-code after giving them my credit card #. It's just so much simpler and faster.
If EV3 is commercial, it better be really damn good (better than ferzel) if i'll buy it...
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I don't think that Ambrosia would make EV3 commercial. If they do I don't think that they would only make it available through CD like ferzel, cause EV3 would probably not be that big or complicated so that developer's could work with it. It will of course probably be also put on a CD like the Mars Rising/EVO CD(except it could be EV/EVO/EV3) but like I said they probably will still have email for a registeration option.
(This message has been edited by J.Ace21 (edited 05-31-2000).)
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One of the things that kept me from buying ferazel was that I would have to order and wait a long time for it. I much prefer e-mail the company for a reg-code after giving them my credit card #. It's just so much simpler and faster.
Ever thought that if Ferazel's Wand was a download they'd be insane? It's a goddamn 90 meg file. Who, in their right minds, would download THAT?
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**Ever thought that if Ferazel's Wand was a download they'd be insane? It's a goddamn 90 meg file. Who, in their right minds, would download THAT?
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Well if you had a DSL or Cable it wouldn't take that long. And I used to have a T3 connection so I never worried abou that kinda thing but now.. I'm stuck with a 56k modem. downloading 90megs would be insane with a modem. but that's kinda my point. EV just isn't THAT big. Hey I downloaded Strata 3.
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I forgot to dither the graphics for my freighter - 900K for the pict file.
I can see plugins of FH/FF caliber being maybe 15-20 megs.
However, keep in mind this thing is not likly to be out for a year or so. High speed connections will be more common then.
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The only reason Ferazel was put on a CD was because it was too big to download for us poor folks with crappy dial-up connections (some people still use 28.8 modems, y'know). Andrew also wanted to test the waters for this sort of thing. Supposing EV3 is a Nova-sort of thing; 40 megs or so, perhaps larger, it's safe to say it will be likely shipped on CD in some form.
I suppose I am priveleged in some way, then. I live in New York State, just a few hundred miles south of Ambrosia headquarters in Rochester. US mail doesn't take too long to reach me.
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You think 90 megs is a lot? I once downloaded 500 megs worth of LinuxPPC on a 28.8 modem! It took about 2 months (including the disconnects every once in a while)
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Unfortunately, the only HL server that has plugins is Starlight. My connection to Starlight sucks - sometimes less than 1K a second. I really don't feel like waiting 3 weeks to download EV3 500K at a sitting. CDs are fine for me.
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I pull 5 to 7 k/sec on my 33.6 off of Starlight..
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I've noticed something that has been neglected throughout this whole conversation: In the one (that I've noticed) piece of proof that there will be an EV3, Welch does state that Ambrosia is more dedicated to electronic means of distribution and will remain so since it seems that more people will get higher speed connections in the future. At this point Ferazel was too large for the average user on a 33.6 or 56K modem.
Ambrosia will probably do an electronic distribution of EV3, but may also put it on a CD, either as an EV Trilogy or with Deimos Rising since EVO was with Mars Rising.
And don't forget other places of distribution. EVO, Mars Rising, Harry, and some other Ambrosia games were on MacAddict's top shareware CD a few months ago.
All in all, Ambrosia is mainly dedicated to electronic distribution, and that's that right now.
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The thing that I am wondering about here is whether or not the unregistered version of EV3 will be limited - Ambrosias last few products (Ares, Ferazel) have been crippleware until registered. EV/O in their present incarnations anyway, would be very hard to limit .
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They might do what they've just done with EV and EV0. Have them as seperate downloads of about 1-2 megs each. Sure they'd be about ten of them, but it would be worth it. Just the thought of EV 3 makes me quiver with excitement.
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