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    • The "Incomplete" Plugin


      Greetings fellow citizens of the galaxy -

      If any of you have downloaded the plugin known as "Incomplete", I was wondering if you know where, or how I could contact the creator of the plugin. I am amazed by the graphics and sounds of the plugin, and impressed by the work done. I would love to see the completed version of this plugin, unfortunately, the creator did not leave an email address, or any means of contact anywhere. If you know how to contavt him, please let me know. Thanks.

      - Captain Stud Beefpile

      - UE Naval Officer
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader

    • His board name is UniversalWolf. You can reach him here (url="http://"mailto:kjetil@bucky.win.bright.net")mailto:kjetil@bucky.win.bright.net(/url)kjetil@bucky.win.bright.net

    • Or you can just post here. I read the boards from time to time.

      Glad you liked the plug so far. I'm working on an update - not that I'm going to complete the whole thing, but I'm trying to create a consistant, playable beginning for people who may want to try finishing it.

      Thanks.

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    • I think the graphics are amazing, as I said before, I highly suggest you finish it, but thats your call.

    • I've already used several sounds from it, but no graphics yet.

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    • I will NOT be finishing the plug-in.

      What I plan on doing is putting enough stuff in the Imperial Cluster area so a person can download the thing and play it a bit and have fun without running in to any garbled text or screwed up mission bits or anything like that. The areas beyond the Vespasian League will remain open for development. Also the graphics and sounds can be used by anyone whether they want to add to my plug or not.

      I don't have the time or the inclination to do any more than that, but hopefully others will.

      Thanks!

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    • Well, your call. Make sure you fix the shuttlecraft's trade-in price. It's at 175 Million Credits. I look forward to seeing the "more" finished product.

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      - Captain Stud Beefpile
      - UE Naval 238th Squadron
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader

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      Orginally posted by UniversalWolf:
      I will NOT be finishing the plug-in.

      Why not? You ought to finish something that you begin. Even though a lot of people don't finish what they start, if you post it, try to finish it.

      Anyway, the graphics and sounds are pretty cool! Keep up the good work!

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      Originally posted by DeadMan:
      **...if you post it, try to finish it.
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      He posted it so people could pick it apart and use pieces of it in their own plugs, I think.

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      Originally posted by skyblade:
      He posted it so people could pick it apart and use pieces of it in their own plugs, I think.

      Yeah, he did do that just so people could pick it apart, but some people (like me) might want to see the plug-in finished, because it looks cool right now, and we wonder how it will end! Of course, UniversalWolf wants someone else to do that, but he knows how the story should end, and we might not end it the way he wants it ended.

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      Originally posted by DeadMan:
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      Yeah, he did do that just so people could pick it apart, but some people (like me) might want to see the plug-in finished, because it looks cool right now, and we wonder how it will end! Of course, UniversalWolf wants someone else to do that, but he knows how the story should end, and we might not end it the way he wants it ended.
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      If he wanted it ended a certain way, and that was very important to him, then he would probably either have finished it himself or left instructions on how to finish it in a read-me file. It seems to me that he just wanted to make the work he had done available to the EVO community, as a new source of graphics and ideas, and perhaps challenge another person to complete the work he began. I think it's probably the best thing he could have done in the situation; better to get an incomplete idea out there than to let it sit forgotten on someone's hard drive.

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    • UniversalWolf -
      Aside from ResEdit, what program(s) did you use to make your plug-in?

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      - Captain Stud Beefpile
      - UE Naval 238th Squadron
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader

    • Item 1 - Programs Used

      Strata Vision 3D
      Bryce 2
      Photoshop 3
      ResEdit
      SimpleText (for writing text)

      Item 2 - Correcting Things

      Yeah, I didn't think to change the trade in price of the shuttle before I uploaded the plug. I originally set it so high because I wanted to make it easy to aquire the different ships and test them. I'm also planning on lowering the power of the larger Scrren beam weapon (it's sort of the ultimate weapon as it stands now), and resorting the outfits and technologies. I've already completely redone the VLS warships, and I think you'll be pleased by the results.

      Item 3 - Finishing the Plug

      I agree that you should finish what you start, but you also have to know your limitations. If I attempted to finish the whole plug-in on my own (forgetting for the moment that I just don't have the drive to do it), it would take a minimum of three months. That is if I would work on it using all my free time all the time. Most of what is left is writing and coding missions which is my least favorite part of plug-in creation. It ain't gonna happen. Remember, I haven't so much as looked at this thing for almost three years (I started it right after EVO came out, whenever that was).

      As a compromise, I am "finishing" one part of the plug-in. When I'm done, you'll be able to download it and play a small but significant part of the whole. I'll include some notes on what my vision of the complete plug-in is, but I'm not going to try and force anyone to do anything with it. If you think it should be finished, maybe you should get a group of people together and have a go at finishing it. You won't need any complex tools, because the graphics and most of the other difficult-to-construct parts are all included. Most of what you'll need to do is writing text and coding missions, and you can do that with nothing but ResEdit.

      Thanks.

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    • Before you finish, you might want to include the comm pictures of all the ships. You left them out 😉

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      - Captain Stud Beefpile
      - UE Naval 238th Squadron
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader

    • Great! Thanks for heeding my advice. And do try to put the ship comm picts as well!

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      (This message has been edited by DeadMan (edited 02-22-2001).)

    • I have something special planned for the comm pictures. They're not in the package because I had some placeholders in the plug that weren't my work, and I'm sure they're copyrighted material, so I just stripped them out. Rest assured, that problem is being addressed.

      If you really want some while your waiting you can always copy the big shipyard PICTs and use those for comm pictures.

      I've completed a new set of Guild Worlds warships, and also a new Scrren freighter. And some other stuff. You'll see.

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    • Sounds good to me! 🙂 Do you know when you may be finished with the semi-final product? Or is it too early to ask?

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      - Captain Stud Beefpile
      - UE Naval 238th Squadron
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader

    • Let's see...I'm getting a wisdom tooth pulled out on Monday. Last time I did that I didn't feel very much like working on anything for a few days, but we'll see. If I can keep working through the pain and drugs I could be finished by this time next week. If not, it may be a bit longer.

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    • Ouch that sucks! :frown: Hope you recover quick;ly! Don't feel pressured or anything to get this done, take your time, and work on it slow to get it perfect! 🙂

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      - Captain Stud Beefpile
      - UE Naval 238th Squadron
      - Azdgari Squadron "Firebird" Leader