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      Or, how to get an extra set of Engine, RCS and Thrust ugrades for free. Many of you no doubt know this, but I searched and haven't seen this anywhere, so here goes.

      A while back, I saw a post where someone wanted to know where to buy the Azdgari warship because of the higher base shield regen rate. That got me thinking: do any other ships in EVO that have various "flavours" differ in anything other than pict and weapon load-out? The Arada seems the most obvious place to check, so I did... (apologies if the spacing is messed up)

      Arada:    Generic   Rngd.   Merch.   Igadzra   Zachit   Azdgari

Cargo:       40         40        50          25          40          25
Mass*:    100      100        79        100          72          90
Shield:    500      500      500        600        600        500
Speed:     600      600      600        600        750        750
Accel:     300      300      300        300        300        375
Turn:           4          4           4            4             4             5
      • Mass = available mass after selling all sellable outfits.

      As you can see, they all vary slightly except for the renegade, which is the same as generic. The reason for the differences, I think, is that previous to 1.0.2, ships couldn't come with stock outfits other than weapons, so the underlying values were changed to simulate outfits such as mass expansions etc. This wasn't fixed in 1.0.2. So if you want a free set of Engine, RCS and Thrust ugrades, capture an Azdgari Arada--and then you can slap another set of ugrades on it. Fights like a light warship, handles like a fighter. 🙂

      (Yes, I'm bored today).

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      (This message has been edited by Kermit (edited 10-16-2000).)

      (This message has been edited by Kermit (edited 10-16-2000).)

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      Ooh, I used to watch Sesame Street, how's it going Kermit? Get stoned with BigBird lately? Anyway, I prefer actual warships than Aradas.

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      I'M ASKING CELTIC!!!

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      Waht are you on about?

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      Originally posted by CelticStarbase:
      **Waht are you on about?

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      I think he meant he's interested in my post, but I can't be sure... 🙂

      Alas, I haven't gotten stoned with Big Bird (or at all) for too long now... :frown:

      As for warships vs. fighters, well, everyone can choose their own style; that's one of the beauties of EVO. At the moment I'm flying smaller ships, but I've flown warships in the past.

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      Hehe, Kermit, LOL. 😄
      What he's on about is an MP3 that tells us the story of Kermit and BB getting stoned during a show.

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      (quote)Originally posted by Talon Karrde:
      **Hehe, Kermit, LOL.:D I'll root around for it...

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      Originally posted by Kermit:
      **Or, how to get an extra set of Engine, RCS and Thrust ugrades for free. Many of you no doubt know this, but I searched and haven't seen this anywhere, so here goes.

      A while back, I saw a post where someone wanted to know where to buy the Azdgari warship because of the higher base shield regen rate. That got me thinking: do any other ships in EVO that have various "flavours" differ in anything other than pict and weapon load-out? The Arada seems the most obvious place to check, so I did... (apologies if the spacing is messed up)

      Arada:    Generic   Rngd.   Merch.   Igadzra   Zachit   Azdgari

Cargo:       40         40        50          25          40          25
Mass*:    100      100        79        100          72          90
Shield:    500      500      500        600        600        500
Speed:     600      600      600        600        750        750
Accel:     300      300      300        300        300        375
Turn:           4          4           4            4             4             5
      • Mass = available mass after selling all sellable outfits.

      As you can see, they all vary slightly except for the renegade, which is the same as generic. The reason for the differences, I think, is that previous to 1.0.2, ships couldn't come with stock outfits other than weapons, so the underlying values were changed to simulate outfits such as mass expansions etc. This wasn't fixed in 1.0.2. So if you want a free set of Engine, RCS and Thrust ugrades, capture an Azdgari Arada--and then you can slap another set of ugrades on it. Fights like a light warship, handles like a fighter. 🙂

      (Yes, I'm bored today).

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      Are you sure the standard (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/evosite/shipyard.html#arada")Arada's(/url) speed is 600? I thought it was 300...I might be wrong, but 600 is as fast or faster than an Azdara!

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      Originally posted by shayborg:

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      Are you sure the standard Arada's speed is 600? I thought it was 300...I might be wrong, but 600 is as fast or faster than an Azdara!

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      :redface: Whoops! My bad... what's happened is I mixed up the figures for speed and acceleration. Thanks for catching that. :rolleyes:

      Correction below:

      Arada:    Generic   Rngd.   Merch.   Igadzra   Zachit   Azdgari

Cargo:      40         40        50          25          40          25
Mass*:    100      100        79        100          72          90
Shield:    500      500      500        600        600        500
Accel:     600      600      600        600        750        750
Speed:     300      300      300        300        300        375
Turn:          4          4           4            4             4             5
      • Mass = available mass after selling all sellable outfits.

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      Originally posted by Kermit:
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      Arada:    Generic   Rngd.   Merch.   Igadzra   Zachit   Azdgari

Cargo:     40        40       50         25         40         25
Mass*:     100      100       79        100         72         90
Shield:    500      500      500        600        600        500
Accel:     600      600      600        600        750        750
Speed:     300      300      300        300        300        375
Turn:        4      4           4         4          4          5
      • Mass = available mass after selling all sellable outfits.

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      It's OK, I was just wondering...but this does look better now.

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      This is probably also the case with CW's not? as you have normal, Azdgari and Zidagar CW's (those big Zidagar's are CW's, aren't they?).

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      (This message has been edited by Celestial Storm (edited 10-21-2000).)

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      Originally posted by Celestial Storm:
      **This is probably also the case with CW's not? as you have normal, Azdgari and Zidagar CW's (those big Zidagar's are CW's, aren't they?).
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      Nah, the Zidagar warships are Zidaras... they're not CW's. They're little pocket CW's. Half as much shielding, only 3 turrets, etc, etc. Very different.

      As for the Aggy and Normal CW's.... well, the Aggy warship has a built in aggy upgrade (I think... either that or it has all the upgrades built in, but I think it's just the aggy one)... and an aggy fighter bay (160 space instead of normal crescent bay's 80).

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      Originally posted by CelticStarbase:
      **Waht are you on about?

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      If I had to guess, I'd say Alien 5672 was referring to the From: line in your profile.

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