Which strand do you think is the best?
I personally think Igzadra are the best strand 'cos the Igzada (sp?) can take on anything in the cresent. I mean 5!!! phase turrets you can blow Zigada fighters to pieces before they even reach you, hows that for power !!!! 
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(This message has been edited by Burning cow (edited 08-16-2000).)
The Azdgari are the best. Their warship, the Azdgari warship can easily take out an Igadzra and even easier a Zidara. They have strong shields that reloads farely quickly, when they are attacked they release up to 8 fighters that swarm over the enemy and crush it before the target even had a chance to fight them. The Azdgari are asocial ( I don't have a clue why I like that but I like the Voinians too so it's not a big mystery) so getting their missions are hard, you have to work for it and as with the Voinians, if you work with one of their enemies first then you don't have a chance in hell to get their missions (Unless you use 2 years destroying every Zidagar and Igadzra ships that you encounter).. The Zidagar does only have two good points, the Zidagar fighter who with the Disruptor Beam and farely good protection and speed can give a solid punch to their enemy and the Disruptor Beam who is the best of all the Beams in EVO space. The Igadzra only have two brands of ships, the Igadzra Arada and the Igazra. The Igazra, however, is one of the best capital ships in the EVO galaxy and it would have been unbeatable if it had a couple of fighters...Sigh, not every ship is perfect....
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I agree totally, Eirik. The Azdgari are without a doubt the best strand. I mean, there's not much you can do against 4 Aggie Warships, now, is there? Iggies and Ziggies just are not as good. True, the big Igzara is the most powerful warship around, but it can't take out the swarm of 24 Azdaras that come from the Aggie's fleet. The Zidagar fighter can be effective in large numbers as well, and the Phase Beam is cool. But all in all, i'd have to go with the Adzgari for the Best Strand award. Zidigar 2nd, Igadzra 3rd.
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In direct combat, an Igazra will take out an aggy warship. Just listen to yourselves.... "yeah, Igazras can't handle Azdara swarms!"... well, no ****... it'd be like a 2 or 3 warships vs 1 iggy.... 3 aggy warshpis will be killed by 3 Igazras. There's no way around it, Igazra are much more powerful.
I think the Igadzra are the best strand. Just look at all the space they control, despite the fact that they're surrounded by enemies. They just must rule.
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In direct combat, an Igazra will take out an aggy warship.
Weird. Whenever I see a computer-controlled Igazra meet a computer-controlled
Azdgari Warship, the Azdgari Warship wins every single time. The Azdaras
usually have the Igazra half dead before the Warships even get within turret
range of each other. It's not even close.
Arada battles between the two sides tend to go to the Azdgari too. Probably
because dispersal rockets are so much more reliable and destructive than
SAEs.
I just don't see the attraction of the Igadzra. They have no impressive
technology at all, the plasma siphon is the only half-decent thing they've
ever come up with. Either of the other strands could put more money into
making a larger ship with bigger shielding like the Igazra, but they have
both gone beyond that to get more bang for their buck with smaller ships
and higher tech.
They also badly need to improve their shield technology. The Azdgari
technology was nearly twice as good even before the breakthrough on
Xarnes. Look at the numbers: An Igazra has 5000 shield with a recharge period
of 1500, for a shield/recharge ratio of 3.33. An Azdgari Warship has 2500 shield and a period of only 400 -- giving a ratio of 6.25. The Azdgari have
managed to make a shield that performs as well as the shield on smaller
ships like Laziras and Aradas, but scaled it up to Warship size without
losing the performance. If the Azdgari ever were to decide to build a ship the
size (and expense) of the Igazra, it would be able to crush anything else
in the crescent. Might even hold up against Voinians.
The Zidagar aren't doing too great with shield technology either, but at least
they've got excellent weapons (mainly due to a natural resource rather than
tech, though) but their tech is pretty good too. Look at how small they have
managed to make their systems. That translates into lower mass and greater
accelleration. The engineering that went into their compact ships is
incredible. I bet if these guys wanted to, they could make a fighter that
outperforms the Azdara (except for the shields).
The only real hope I see for the Igadzra is in their weapons programs. Their
turreted beam weapon was pretty good; too bad the scientist who invented it
suffered that fatal "accident" and didn't leave any notes. Also, the plasma
siphon has some potential too (it's quite a bit more fuel efficient than the
phased disruption beam) but the delivery system is absolutely rotten. If they
can change that unfocused spray into a beam or something, maybe they'll have
something.
Oh, and their current smart weapons are pretty much worthless, given
current ECM technology. But this could be corrected if they were to take
some lessons in guidance systems from the humans.
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The Azdagari are better. I've sided with them and with the Igadzra but the Igadzra missions are so freakin' hard! I have a CW and I still can't beat the swarms of the Azdagari.
The spray of the Plasma Siphon is more useful than a beam however. The object is to hit multiple targets like a swarm of azdaras. That's the only thing that's good about it however. It sucks on warships and other ships besides a swarm of Azdaras.
I haven't done the Zidagar yet, but from what I see thay don't look half bad even with their small ships.
My favorite however is the UE Cruiser. You simply can't beat it. And with all of the upgrades, it handles like a Zidara, has the strength of an Igazra, and has a shield recharge rate close to an Azdi Warship. I think it's better than any Strand ship out there except for Oedipus's invincible Azdara ship.
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I agree somewhat with what most people have said. The Igazra is a nice ship, but doesnt leave enought room for mods and has no fighters. The plasma siphon rocks tho, and is worth the work it takes to get it. The zidagar tech is not too good, since i think Zidaras are too weak to be of any use as a single ship. Disruptr beams are ok, but they drain fuel like crazy and are impractical to use most of the time. The Azdgari have good fighters and manueverable ships, but i cant say much about them because i have never actually worked for them. If I had to pick a fav strand, it would be Adzgari (once i've played them) or the igadzra. However, if your just looking for a nice ship to use, then forget the strands and buy a Crescent warship from the Miranu.
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I agree that the Azdgari are the best , I used to think the Zidagar were the best because of the Zidara but now I pick the Azdgari, because of the upgrades they give you, the recharge rate on the Azdgari Warship is cool and the Azdaras can kill any ship in swarms because of their shield recharge rate and speed.
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Ever since EVO 1.0.2 came out, I've been a huge fan of the Azdgari Warship configuration. Just launch those Azdaras and watch them go to work.....bloody fast! The Zidara is much better off as well, I've noticed that the phased beams are far more devestating. What makes the Azd. Warship better is that it has 6 fighters, not just 2. 
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I Personally think Igzadra are the best strand 'cos the Igzada (sp?) can take on anything in the cresent. I mean 5!!! phase turrets you can blow Zigada fighters to pieces before they even reach you, hows that for power !!!!
Did I mention I saw a Zidara take an Igazra down to 43% all by itself the other day? 
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My favorite however is the UE Cruiser. You simply can't beat it. And with all of the upgrades, it handles like a Zidara, has the strength of an Igazra, and has a shield recharge rate close to an Azdi Warship. I think it's better than any Strand ship out there except for Oedipus's invincible Azdara ship.
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oh yeah, gotta love the invincibility
the azdgari defineteley are the best, seeing as you can make my god ship with it
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You say 3 azggie warships will take out 3 izggie warships, but when i defended Irnnin (sp) there was 5 azggie warships attacking 3 igzadra warships including me and we one with only one casualty!!!
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**You say 3 azggie warships will take out 3 izggie warships, but when i defended Irnnin (sp) there was 5 azggie warships attacking 3 igzadra warships including me and we one with only one casualty!!!:D
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Yes, but if you were defending, then that tilted the odds pretty
massively. Human players tend to kick the AI's ass. Just start talking about
the Voinian Dreadnaught, and people will tell you stories about the time they
killed the Dreadnaught with a Scoutship. That doesn't mean that you can
realistically conclude that the Scoutship is a superior combat vessel to the
Dreadnaught.
To accurately assess the relative strength of ships, you should have AI vs AI
(which we have all seen) or player vs player (which we can only imagine).
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yeah, i mean, i can take out 20 Zidaras by myself, but that means nothing, seeing as im a human, you cant judge human vs. computer because humans are sentient, plus they can upgrade, while only a few computers can do that. think about that
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Well... for one, if you were defending whatever system, chances are you JOINED in the fighting.
And furthermore.... I still think the Igadzra are the best. I don't care about the frame recharge ratio of the price of bread in Moscow. It doesn't matter. In a slug fest, I always see the iggies win. The SAE's spank the Azdaras, and then the Iggy Warship (yes, it's at around 60-70 % shield when done with Azdaras) goes and hammers the crap out of the Aggy Warship, and continues to fire SAE's.
The Igazra has LOADS of free space, and even more of you get rid of the SAE's (which can be used for better things).... however, when there is no asteroids in a system, SAE's are godly.
And to top it off..... for my own personal use, I find ships with more shields to be more useful, not ones that recharge faster. No matter what, if you're in a battle, you're not gonna be waiting around saying "Damn, I'm happy I have this Aggy Warship, cuz he only takes FOUR HUNDRED frames to reload! oh joy, oh happy day!" You'll be saying, "Damn, I'm happy I have this Igazra with twice as much shielding, more space, and more weapons"... and if I'm about to die, I don't fly away and wait to recharge. I land on a planet. You see, if you land on a planet, your shields recharge in 1.5 frames. Now how about that great equalizer?
But, whatever. Everyone has their own personal favorites. My favorite ships are the Igazra, Lazira, V. Cruiser, and Shield Beast Azdara.
So, go figure. Enjoy
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**Yes, but if you were defending, then that tilted the odds pretty
massively. Human players tend to kick the AI's ass. Just start talking about
the Voinian Dreadnaught, and people will tell you stories about the time they
killed the Dreadnaught with a Scoutship. That doesn't mean that you can
realistically conclude that the Scoutship is a superior combat vessel to the
Dreadnaught.
To accurately assess the relative strength of ships, you should have AI vs AI
(which we have all seen) or player vs player (which we can only imagine).
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I totally agree with that one. I read over this post before I made mine.
Oh, by the way,...... to all the great programmers out there... ahem
"or player vs player (which we can only imagine)."
hint hint nudge nudge
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yeah, and the reason your the only one who thinks the zidigar are the best is because they suck and you obviously dont a good race when you see one
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Oh they're all a whole hell of a lot of fun.
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the best strand would be the iggzies because they missions are the easiest and the easiest to get also the plasma siphon can kill a whole fleet of azdaras in a two shots the aggzies mission a very hard to get and the only thing that is good about them is their sheild recharge rate
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