AAAGGGHHH!!! I know what you're all thinking. "Oh, no! Not another one!!!" But this one should be interesting.

POLL (Bum bum bummmmmm...)

Which is better? Confederate Cruiser or Rebel Destroyer?

My opinion: Confederate Cruiser is way better. It can wipe the astro-turf with a Destroyer any Earth Standard Day of the Earth Standard Week. Although, the way the A.I. controlled ships fight doesn't do the Destroyer any good. Attacking head-on over and over is certainly not the way to win a fight in a weaker ship. (Key word- WEAKER) But it is the way in a Confederate Cruiser! Boo yah! Confederates rule! Rebels drool!

And now, the onslaught of "No way!"

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Gah! Is anyone ever going to get it? You never put the Rebel Destroyer in a poll! It wins every time, because it is quite simply the best ship in the game. Polls with the RD are boring for this reason.

I'll allow everyone to speculate which side I'm voting.

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The 'Fed Cruiser originated from a species on earth called the "slug." Heck, I'd never put that huge mass of metal over my precious Rebel Destroyer.

AI vs AI, Confed Cruiser will slaughter the mentioned opponent. It'd be totally different in reality, though. Tactics cannot be performed with large and slow warships.

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Rebel Destroyer.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**AI vs AI, Confed Cruiser will slaughter the mentioned opponent. It'd be totally different in reality, though. Tactics cannot be performed with large and slow warships.

**

That's like saying that carriers are worthless for tactics because they are large and slow. A Confed Cruiser will easily slaughter a rebel destroyer in human vs human as well. 4 fighters buzzing the destroyer will lower its shields at least by a quarter and in the meantime the cruiser is firing missiles and torps. No matter who the destroyer goes after it will get nailed. And if the destroyer comes too close to the cruiser it gets nailed by the cruiser's primary weapons. Any secondaries that the destroyer might be able to toss out are negligent as the cruiser can take far more than the destroyer can dish out.

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As little as I like to admit it, the Confederation Cruiser can take on any ship in the whole game and come out the victor. It trashes like 3 Rebel Destroyers at the same time even. As much as I like the Rebel Destroyer, the Confed Cruiser can blow it out of the water any day.

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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
**That's like saying that carriers are worthless for tactics because they are large and slow. A Confed Cruiser will easily slaughter a rebel destroyer in human vs human as well. 4 fighters buzzing the destroyer will lower its shields at least by a quarter and in the meantime the cruiser is firing missiles and torps. No matter who the destroyer goes after it will get nailed. And if the destroyer comes too close to the cruiser it gets nailed by the cruiser's primary weapons. Any secondaries that the destroyer might be able to toss out are negligent as the cruiser can take far more than the destroyer can dish out.

**

Technically, you can't really pull off quick tactics with slow warships, both in space and modern sea warfare. Speed is the critical factor if you hope for success.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Technically, you can't really pull off quick tactics with slow warships, both in space and modern sea warfare. Speed is the critical factor if you hope for success.

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Well, you also don't have shields in modern sea warfare. Fire power is everything in this case. Cruiser easily both in AI and in a human vs human match.

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Actually, I've seen 2 destroyers beat a cruiser because they're each hitting it at the same time, confusing its AI script. I think both destroyers were still at 75% shields when the cruiser blew.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Technically, you can't really pull off quick tactics with slow warships, both in space and modern sea warfare. Speed is the critical factor if you hope for success.

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That's why slow ships have long-range weapons such as torpedos for enemy capital ships, and fighters for enemy fighters.

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Originally posted by spl_cadet:
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The Confed's weapons are worthless, as the RD can dodge them. The same cannot be said of the Slug. As for fighters, the Destroyer can dispose of them quickly and easily with a few Missiles, taking only a couple in return. It can easily fly around until that damage has been recovered, then go for the Cruiser. One thing the Cruiser cannot do is evfade the Rebel attacks; when the Destroyer is ready to hit, the Confed will be hit. However, if the Destroyer chooses not to get hit for a time to recharge, the Confed can't do anything about it.

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Wouldn't the cruiser hold a lot more secondaries? I assume that the destroyer would have the sense not to get in range of the cruiser's turrets (which would be playing to the cruiser's strength), and hence the battle would be lost by whoever ran out of secondaries first. I think a lot of you are blinded by your hatred of the confederation.

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I don't think you can say that either of these ships is absolutely better than the other. Each outperforms the other in different roles.

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Actually, I've seen 2 destroyers beat a cruiser because they're each hitting it at the same time, confusing its AI script. I think both destroyers were still at 75% shields when the cruiser blew.

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Same here. Every now and then, I'll watch two or three Rebel destroyers gain up on a single Confederation cruiser... The big slug can't decide which to go for first, since it's being hit from all sides with some nasty firepower.

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Originally posted by David Arthur:
**I don't think you can say that either of these ships is absolutely better than the other. Each outperforms the other in different roles.
**

Quite so. The Confed Cruiser is more of a flagship fleet leading kind of ship, not good by itself, but powerful with support craft. The destroyer is great by itself.

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Rebel Destroyer.
In standard build, in human vs. human combat, the destroyer simply takes out the fighters, and dodges the torpedoes. Then, it sits out of the range of the guns and blasts it to smeg with projectile weaponary (missiles, torps, heavy rockets, whatever) and can then finish it off (if necessary) with the turrets from up close. 1 on 1, it's impossible to say that the destroyer would lose if both of the human players (theoretically - we all know EV network edition isn't going to ever happen) are skillfull, as tactics can't really come into play.

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Originally posted by David Arthur:
**I don't think you can say that either of these ships is absolutely better than the other. Each outperforms the other in different roles.
**

I agree. That makes about three versus the mob of pro-Destroyers.

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First of all, dudz, learn to spell. You're post is a disgrace to this topic. Well, your consonants aren't bad, but the vowels need work. Sorry.

Secondly, all you guys are nuts. Rebel Destroyer will always be wasted by the Confederate Cruiser. This ship is a force that can only be defeated by the aliens. Those guys are tough.

Thirdly, dudz, sorry again. You're not half as bad as that Darth Doodah moron. But try a little something called proofreading. I can barely understand some of the stuff you're saying.

Also, Macky Poo, the best ships in the game (combat-wise) are as follows:

1)Alien Cruiser
2)Alien Fighter
3)Confederate Cruiser
4)Rebel Cruiser
5)Rebel Destroyer
6)Kestral
7)Confederate Frigate

If any of ya disagree, feel my rath!

Ooh, last of all, how can I turn HTML on?

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
Secondly, all you guys are nuts. Rebel Destroyer will always be wasted by the Confederate Cruiser. This ship is a force that can only be defeated by the aliens. Those guys are tough.

This comment appears to me the mark of an inferior pilot, who has no comprehension of the value of maneuverability.

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
**1)Alien Cruiser
2)Alien Fighter
3)Confederate Cruiser
4)Rebel Cruiser
5)Rebel Destroyer
6)Kestral
7)Confederate Frigate

If any of ya disagree, feel my rath!**

!) Alien Fighter
2) Alien Cruiser
3) Rebel Destroyer
4) Rebel Cruiser
5) Confed Cruiser
6) Confed Frigate
7) Corvette

Just try to make me feel your w rath.

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
Ooh, last of all, how can I turn HTML on?

You can't. It is on only in the Image Gallery, Just Pics, and the Newswires, I believe.

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