The Kestrel.

Since speed and maneuverability are the stalwarts of KK's offense/defense, the Kestrel just does not measure up. (First time I played I COULD NOT WAIT to get in that Kool Kestrel. Once I got over the "glow" of my new Kestrel, I learned it was simply too slow.)

The other thing is, I get no joy from sending fighters off to fight for me. If I cannot handle the bogie myself, I don't deserve his booty.

FYI, I dislike the Rebel Cruiser for the same reason. But at least that ship does live up to its reputation.

Okay, blast away, people....

- KK

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“You will find that our crew will be either the most valuable, loyal, and trustworthy of allies, or ... if you insist on trying to swallow us up -- the worst of enemies. The choice is yours. And should you choose to fight us ... don’t bring a knife to a gunfight!”

I believe the Confederation Cruiser is the most over-rated ship. Sure, it is a battleship when you're fighting it with turrets and energy weapons, but at a distance, the slow and ill-fated vessel becomes easy meat. The thing lacks menuverability, making it especially easy to gain up behind and unleash a volley of rockets. If that doesn't work, feed the cruiser your torpedoes, and that should finish it...Speed will kill Power just about any time.

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I don't know, a Rebel Cruiser can fly circles around Confed Cruisers, Kestrals, Frigates, Argosies, even Clippers. But I'd say the most over rated ship is still the Rebel Cruiser it just doesn't fit enough cargo! When you disable a Confed Freighter with it, you have fit half of what it has! Oh, well. At least money doesn't take up space!

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**I believe the Confederation Cruiser is the most over-rated ship. Sure, it is a battleship when you're fighting it with turrets and energy weapons, but at a distance, the slow and ill-fated vessel becomes easy meat. The thing lacks menuverability, making it especially easy to gain up behind and unleash a volley of rockets. If that doesn't work, feed the cruiser your torpedoes, and that should finish it...Speed will kill Power just about any time.
**

The confed cruiser is not overrated. Nothing in EV or in commentaries about EV ever claimed it was anything but slow. Straight out of the shipyard, the confed cruiser way outguns anything else in EV, so its claims to power are justified. Whether it is the most powerful is debatable, but nobody misrepresents its strengths and weaknesses.

Now the confed frigate is way overrated. Even calling this ship a frigate is too much. It is really an armed transport-- a heavy argosy.

The kestrel is overrated only in price. I figure a kestral is worth no more than 5 million, otherwise, its a solid frigate class ship.

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I'm sorry

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

(This message has been edited by Dominick (edited 04-11-2001).)

Well,i coulden't resist doing that and in case you guys think mi typed that word for word YAH RIGHT.........Copy and Paste is a wonderful thing.

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
**I don't know, a Rebel Cruiser can fly circles around Confed Cruisers, Kestrals, Frigates, Argosies, even Clippers. But I'd say the most over rated ship is still the Rebel Cruiser it just doesn't fit enough cargo! When you disable a Confed Freighter with it, you have fit half of what it has! Oh, well. At least money doesn't take up space!:)

**

Just remember that the Rebel Cruiser isn't intended to have cargo space. It is a warship, and fits its duties very well.

And Dominick, try to be more careful with what you post. You could easilly get in trouble for spamming...

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President of the Corsair Development Team
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I have been trying to capture a rebel cruiser for so long any suggestions?

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

oh and the kestrel is SSSOOOOO over-rated i dominatedlike 30 planets to get that ship and i almost comited suicide when i got it

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

and how do you up your karma

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The Dark Thingy Dude
(hey i wanted it to sound evil)

(This message has been edited by Dominick (edited 04-10-2001).)

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Originally posted by Dominick:
**and how do you up your karma
**

I'll tell you how to lower your karma: putting up spam like that 'dude' post. Lucky for you I'm going to bed now

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not drowning, waving

1. The Rebel Cruiser IS designed to hold cargo space. Rebel warships are the
   entire Rebel trading fleet - either that or the Rebels have no income whatsoever
   and can't build a single new ship.

2. The Kestrel is GOOD. You pay the extra 5m for the cool LOOK of it! I don't
   mind the speed, and it's a good ship for the Alien missions. And I like it.

3. Fighters? I totally agree! Same with escorts - that's why my escorts are just
   for show if I even have any, usually 6 Lightnings or Rapiers. I keep the Lightnings
   to attack freighters just to hear those lovely heavy rockets fire, and I'm so
   protective of my Lightnings I don't even send them up against Pirate Argosies or
   Defenders.

4. The Confed Cruiser is the most over-rated ship. Too slow. Too expensive.

5. The Rebel Cruiser is NOT overrated, despite having a small cargo hold. It's the
   best (human) ship in the game for strength, although the Rebel Destroyer is better
   allround.

6. Stop moaning that your warships aren't fast enough. Warships are supposed to
   be slow. If you don't like it, stick with Rebel Destroyers, Corvettes and my
   personal favourite, the LIGHTNING.

7. Stop saying "dude" or I'll hunt you down and make it so you are never able of
   saying ANYTHING for the rest of your life.

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Everyone I"M SORRY obviously i really really screwed up with that but seriously plaese don't judge me by that i'm really sorry so pls stop getting pissed at me

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**< snip>

2. The Kestrel is GOOD. You pay the extra 5m for the cool LOOK of it! I don't
   mind the speed, and it's a good ship for the Alien missions. And I like it.

3. Fighters? I totally agree! Same with escorts - that's why my escorts are just
   for show if I even have any, usually 6 Lightnings or Rapiers. I keep the Lightnings
   to attack freighters just to hear those lovely heavy rockets fire, and I'm so
   protective of my Lightnings I don't even send them up against Pirate Argosies or
   Defenders.

<snip>**

SilverDragon, you and I will simply not agree on two things: Kestrels & Lightnings. Other than that, I agree with much of your comments. (And I can live with 99.9%.)

The Kestrel IS the koolest looking ship. No argument. (And if I could buy one with MB's tremendous shield regenerating rate I'd love it.) For 10MM credits, I would expect its speed to be at least "300" and its turn to be at least "good". (Then the upgrades would really make it great.)

- KK

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“You will find that our crew will be either the most valuable, loyal, and trustworthy of allies, or ... if you insist on trying to swallow us up -- the worst of enemies. The choice is yours. And should you choose to fight us ... don’t bring a knife to a gunfight!”

Tell me KK - what are you disputing about Lightnings?

And be very careful; I'm known t oget very angry when people slag off the Lightning,
as you'll see if you read "The Lightning - The Best Ship?"

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**Tell me KK - what are you disputing about Lightnings?

And be very careful; I'm known to get very angry when people slag off the Lightning,
as you'll see if you read "The Lightning - The Best Ship?"

**

Yes, I know. See your own Lightning thread and notice KK is one of the biggest detractors of the "Super-Defender," AKA: Lightning.

-KK

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“You will find that our crew will be either the most valuable, loyal, and trustworthy of allies, or ... if you insist on trying to swallow us up -- the worst of enemies. The choice is yours. And should you choose to fight us ... don’t bring a knife to a gunfight!”

Dominik, what did you do. You keep appolagizing like you wrote the forrbider 4 letter word all over the screen.

Dont appologize for this(you are creating too much spam with your appologies)

Oh yah! the Confed Cruiser every one sayes its so good but realy its like a slow mooving cow.
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if it dosent doesn't
squiel its not worth
killing

(This message has been edited by rebel council (edited 04-11-2001).)

Agreed.

What amazes me is the Rebel Cruisers "secret stats".

If you compare them, the Confed cruiser has more weapons, higher shielding, higher
armour, and it's fighters are only marginally weaker.

And yet, speed and shield recharge make the Rebel Cruiser MUCH better.

Anyone else know any BASE advantages the Rebel Cruiser has? As in, not including
ones like max. turrets?

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Originally posted by Dominick:
**oh and the kestrel is SSSOOOOO over-rated i dominatedlike 30 planets to get that ship and i almost comited suicide when i got it

**

WOW, if you dominated 30 planets, you should be shopping for cruisers, not kestrels.

If you cannot buy a cruiser directly, then buy 6 kestrels for escorts (to increase capture %) and capture a cruiser.

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Originally posted by rebel council:
**Oh yah! the Confed Cruiser every one sayes its so good but realy its like a slow mooving cow.
**

Better to think of it as a raging bull, not very fast, but real dangerous up close.
The rebel cruiser would be the matador.

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