Catchy title huh? Anyway if you haven't been to banter and brawl lately you missed an interesting international debate started (probably inadventantly) by Basilisk with the topic "Yay!". In that debate he made it abundantly clear he was not from Australia, but New Zealand. I just thought I'd let everyone know who doesn't already know this to aviod an international incident that might be caused by someone calling Basilisk an Aussie again. My mom's college roomate was from New Zealand. Word up, Basilisk! (no, I'm not black, just a little pathetic) Is it as beautiful there as my mom says it is whenever she sees our slightly drab Pennsylvania landscape?

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sigh, he's a she.

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"Je deteste Wyndoze!"
-Me.

Heheh. I'd just like to point out that that is a quote. I didn't say it, I doubt I ever will, etc.

I think I'll change it now- this one's getting a bit confusing.

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"That's offensive! Never call me Australian again!"

AIM: EVBasilisk

OK. I'd just like to note that I don't mind being called Australian by you Americans. I mean, it's halfway across the world, and you guys are so wrapped up in your own special little world that simple things like that can slip your mind.

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-Basilisk-

"Fake cheese? What is the world coming to?"

AIM: EVBasilisk

Oh- and if you take the above post seriously, then please go (url="http://"http://www.pokemon.com")here.(/url)

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"Fake cheese? What is the world coming to?"

AIM: EVBasilisk

(This message has been edited by Basilisk (edited 03-03-2000).)

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**OK. I'd just like to note that I don't mind being called Australian by you Americans. I mean, it's halfway across the world, and you guys are so wrapped up in your own special little world that simple things like that can slip your mind.:p

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You mean like sending probes into space (those that don't get trashed by storms on planets...damn Mars...) and preparing for future missions for colonizing the moon, building space stations (or hotels for that matter...) and finding the cheapest way to have a temporary settlement on Mars?

Why on earth would we care about some backwards country like Australia or NZ? The biggest acheivements there are in wrestling crocks....

I think I hear a dingo eating your baby.......

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Do note, you Americans, that you may not be the first world power. NO NO NO. That could possibly go to Japan or Europe (England, Germany, France, etc.). Yes, you got to the moon before any other country, but what have you gained? And living on Mars, well, hehehe. Humans need food and water, neither of which exist (in usable form) on Mars. Trips there take several months, and very few people would be able to spend that long confined on a very small space, like one of your "spaceships". It has been done on a space station(Russian), but not on a ship.

Lastly, you did not win World War 2, you just helped the British during the last years of the conflict and took all the credit. Japan would have eventually surrendered. They were running out of pilots, resorces in general, and fighting will.

Basilisk, are you a woman? Or did Andrew M mean someone else?

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In the end, the Confederation will win, for the moronic AI helps their superiorly shielded ships.

Ambrosia is an American company. Case closed.

Oh, ah, sorry about calling you a man, Basilisk. I quess I'm used to the somewhat shallow girls in America giving themselves usernames like "SugarRose" or "FlowerPower". It's kind of hard to tell sometimes with more nuetral names. At least there's no chance of anyone calling me a girl.....

Pokemon is Japanese, thank God. If America ever came up with anything that stupid, I might have to give myself a swirlie. Oh damn. I forgot about disco.

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**Do note, you Americans, that you may not be the first world power. NO NO NO. That could possibly go to Japan or Europe (England, Germany, France, etc.). Yes, you got to the moon before any other country, but what have you gained? And living on Mars, well, hehehe. Humans need food and water, neither of which exist (in usable form) on Mars. Trips there take several months, and very few people would be able to spend that long confined on a very small space, like one of your "spaceships". It has been done on a space station(Russian), but not on a ship.

Lastly, you did not win World War 2, you just helped the British during the last years of the conflict and took all the credit. Japan would have eventually surrendered. They were running out of pilots, resorces in general, and fighting will.

Basilisk, are you a woman? Or did Andrew M mean someone else?
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What are EARTH are you talking about? America is the richest, most powerful and most technologically advanced country on the planet. By going to the moon we got rocks and samples, which have helped our understanding of the Earth and moon.
Food and water doesn't exist on Mir or Antarctica either. Mars has water, and its air can be chemically changed into oxygen, hydrogen and water. Scientist have already done this. Food can also be grown in small areas, you could grow some food even on a space shuttle, though it wouldn't be enough the feed the crew. Many Astronauts have spent 180 or so days aboard space shuttles, even more in little Mir. You could get to Mars within 6 months if you left on 2005...

Your total lack of historical knowledge and plain ignorance is amusing. The US was damn near fighting Japan alone, it had little help from China. The reason Japan was "running out of pilots and will" was because WE WERE THE ONES CAUSING IT. Do you have any idea how big Japan's navy was? Or how much of the Pacific they controlled? America fought the Japanesse Empire all the way back to the two main islands, before the bombs were dropped. It would of taken A LONG time to take the island otherwise.

As for the European theatre, we played a large role. The Soviets did most of the work, at the cost of 50 million soldiers....
Britain? Please. France fell within six days. Though fierce they were, without American aid they would not have even kept their own skies. American, English and French/Italian forces worked together along with the Soviets on the East to defeat Germany. Look at who invaded France (from Normandy and Omaha), how many of the Allies there were American?

America deserves credit for defeating Japan, there was some help from Australia (+ a few British ships) and China, but when looking at the battles, and seeing who won what... we did it all As for Germany, it took all the allies to do that, the Soviets did about 1/3 of the work, America another 1/3 and England, France and Italy the last 1/3...
If it weren't for America, you would be living under communism or nazism...

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(This message has been edited by mikee J (edited 03-04-2000).)

You know, mikee, there's a little something called diplomacy. . .

Anyway, I think America sucks. So there.

And I live in southern New York State, too.

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"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
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**You know, mikee, there's a little something called diplomacy. . .

Anyway, I think America sucks. So there.

---->And I live in southern New York State, too.<----

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WELL NO WONDER!

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Hey, just to offer a little opinion of my own (please disregard my username while reading this):
Americans are, almost by definition, lazy, selfish, unintelligent, stubborn, and arrogant.
Except me (well, at least I'm not stupid). Which is why I suspect my origin is not of this Earth...
Regardless, I have 3 questions:
1. Arguing about what country is better than all the rest accomplishes NOTHING. Why are you doing this?
2. If this IS necessary, why not in the other room (the unmoderated one)?
3. What ship(s) has a Confed Gunboat Bay?
(Feel free to not answer that last one, though I'd still appreciate it).

Yeah, I agree with you. It's only a small, privileged cynical minority that finds Americans a bunch of lazy hypocritical capitalist pigs

Answers to your questions. . . (list=1)
()Because people like to be selflessly, stupidly patriotic.
()Doing that would require a new topic, and invite more flaming.
(*)I think that it's some variation on the Confed cruiser. I know the Confed cruiser has a gunboat bay in Pale. . .
(/list=a) mikee J, do you have something against people from Westchester County, NY?

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-Gen. Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove

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(B)Hey, just to offer a little opinion of my own (please disregard my username while reading this):
Americans are, almost by definition, lazy, selfish, unintelligent, stubborn, and arrogant.

Wow, and yet we:
Discoverd nuclear energy for power and weaponry
Are the richest country
Are the 'leaders' of the internet (look were most servers are)
Probably produced most of the software on your computer, which was most likely made here
Have the largest and toughest military
Bailed out just about every country one or more times -WWI, WWII-
Held back and helped end the Soviet union
Have been to the moon
Produced most of the space probes
Have some of the most intelligent and richest people on earth

I could go on, but modesty and hunger prevent me

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Yes, but consider how large the American population is. Sure, there have been some innovations, but as a percentage of people who have done something important, it's no prize winner.
However, as an attempt to nullify my place in the potential beginnings of WWIII, I hereby revoke my comment.
By the way, to expand on your intelligent Americans point, Mikee, you misspelled discovered.
This is not hypocritical, because none of my misspellings have been in the context of saying that I am intelligent.

HAH!

Ummmmmm that's called a TYPO. Wow. I do that all the time... amazeng

We have 270 million people. Now, China and India are around one billion each. We are only a fraction of the total world population, yet... we lead the world in damn near everything.

Now your little attack on how most Americans do little... pathetic. That is no more than a direct insult to me and every American. The common man in every country doesn't do great things. Though, when you look at what a hundred people in one country do or did, compared to 100 Americans, you might be suprised

Say, what do you do that is so great? What do your parents do? Please... I am sure it is impressive.

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mikee J, why do you feel a need to defend America? While America has a huge economy, plenty of accomplishments, and so forth, the US has been amazing at producing the world's greatest blunders, stupid people, and otherwise being shallow and foolish. I mean, look at things like Watergate, Vietnam, the Cold War, Cuba the list stretches on. Of course, that also proves the point that people are stupid in general

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"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
-Gen. Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove

Well yes, America HAS it's problems and screw up...

But I was stating that this America bashing was unfounded and that one could be proud to be an American.

But as for most of the screw ups, thats usually because of democrats and liberals... heh -JOKE FOLKS-

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give it a rest. Americans are arrogant and generally stupid, gotta admit it (ever encounter one as a tourist somewhere else? we are ***holes, bigtime). however, it's not like every other country doesn't have its problems too so let it go.

written by a US Air Force brat after having seen life outside the US

JEEZ! Maybe I should just stop introducing topics of converstion altogether! Although I started this topic with an alternative purpose of arousing some international discussion, I didn't think it would turn into a full scale America vs. the world flame fest. I would just like to say that while America may be a very large, technologically advanced, and rich country, we ARE also the fattest, most ignorant, and most materialistic of all the countries in the world. We consume 95% of the world's drugs. Most Americans have forgotten what it's like to have to fight for your life every day (Kosovo, India, Somalia, etc.). And if we lose touch like that and become a distant superpower, large-scale corruption is bound to happen. If Americans think they are superior to the world, we are no better than Hitler's Nazis. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutley. It's all right to be patriotic, but it's not all right to think you are a better person just because your government is making alot of money and spending it on alot of expensive things.

As for WWI, America almost sided with Germany and her allies! The sinking of the Lusitania and Zimmerman's conspiracy with Mexico swayed the public opinion and we entered the war in 1916 with Britian.

As for WWII, America stood by and watched as Hitler became more powerful and started conquering nations. We were going to stay nuetral. It was only when FDR let the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor that we finally entered the war. Yes Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy. I won't write all the details about it, except that the night before the attack, all 4 American aircraft carriers were suddenly ordered out of Pearl Harbor with no reason given and no escort. There is much more evidence and if you want to here it all, e-mail me at pikeman327@hotmail.com

Anyway I think we should stop with this pointless and counter-productive flaming right now. America has it's faults, so does Australia, so does England, so does New Zealand, so does Scotland, etc. If anyone has anything to say about the game called "Escape Velocity" by a company called "Ambrosia Software", I think it would be very refreshing to hear right now. Thank you for humoring me while I went on this all-noble tirade.

"Why can't we all just get along?"

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