The Marathon topic in Trash Talk gave me an idea that may be worth exploring. For now, perhaps a discussion.

What about a Marathon TC for Ares? It would need some meticulous planning to be worth anything, but it has potential. Think about it: you command the forces of the small yet powerful S'pht'Kr, and the large yet pathetic forces of the UESC in a crusade against the Pfhor, their subordinates, and their masters (if we implement EVIL).

Massive battles involving weapons unique to the Ares universe, wierd technologies, and strenuious missions would push Ares, Hera, and their users to their limits.

But as i said, this would require a lot of work and some really good planning. What do you think?

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Throughout their history these "unenlightened" beings have continually opposed and fought abuses of power wrought by their own bretheren. We, as the prophets would do well to learn from these Humans.
-Final statement of the Salrilian reformist Sirthis shortly before his execution.

id love to play it. But i dont really have enough experience with the storyline to help.

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just take my post, and imagine everything is speeled right.
nickel count: 8

I'd love to see an ASI/Darkk conjunction of it. (Darkk appearantly lives and breathes Marathon) As you said, it'd be hard to do and would take a lot of time, but I think the end result would be worth it.

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"I'm a controversial figure. My friends either dislike me or hate me."

I'm in. Ahh, the chance to live my fantasy of being Durandal.
I'd love to be a sarcastic immortal powerful AI, wouldn't you?

We should put the Wr'knckater (I know I spelled that wrong, I'd like to see you spell it) in the secret level like Slug did with the Borg.

SACK THE PFHOR HOMEWORLD! Fly Jjaro dreadnaughts.

I'm gonna pop if I don't get unhappy real soon thinks about school. There we go.

I would love to assist. Bring it on, I might even do sprites.

Giddy with excitement,
Darkk, servant to Durandal

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William Darkk, head of the Darkklight Entrepenurial Federation
"Strategic warfare" is code for "killing civilians", and it's my calling. Yeah, it's barbaric. War's supposed to be.

Oh, and by the time they have a fleet, I'm pretty sure it's UES G.

I've already got 2 weapon ideas. I'd love to do this plug!

*tries not to post to this topic every 2 seconds

Hate to get your hopes down, but if you are over-joyful because of what I said, note I mentioned a "Darkk/ASI conjunction". In other words, you need to get their approval first.

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"I'm a controversial figure. My friends either dislike me or hate me."

I'm overjoyful the idea's even come up.
If ASI won't, I might on my own if I can find space for it among my other projects.

I'll pass the idea along, but both Slug and SA are bogged down with life and other projects, and Zeta seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth. That leaves the rest of us with the burden of the Ares Port. Although I'd still love to do this project.

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Throughout their history these "unenlightened" beings have continually opposed and fought abuses of power wrought by their own bretheren. We, as the prophets would do well to learn from these Humans.
-Final statement of the Salrilian reformist Sirthis shortly before his execution.

Wr'kncacter. Without looking.
And I'm pretty sure it is UESC.

I'd be happy to work on it. (I haven't officially joined ASI yet, but Slug has suggested i a couple times).

So we'd have Durandal/Darkk, the rampant AI who likes to kill things and does things for his benefit,
Leela/Pallas Athene, the good AI, who is inevitably killed early on because she's too nice for the storyline.
Now, what about Tycho and Thoth?

Lets see.. races: UESC, S'pht'kr, Pfhor, Jjaro. Maybe: Nar, S'pht'mnr (as an alternative)?

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
ThinkFish, and good things will come.

I'd live and breathe Marathon too, but unfortunately, at the moment I can only live and breathe Marathon 2. (I'm not a big fan of the original, and I keep forgetting to get infinity)

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
ThinkFish, and good things will come.

It is UESC, I just checked. unfortunately, it's W'rkncacnter. But I was closer than you

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
ThinkFish, and good things will come.

And in browsing around in DTB, I got a great new sig.

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
"Cheaters don't really win, and winners don't really cheat. Unless you're talking politics." -Durandal

Earth
Mars
Tau Ceti
Lh'owon
T'jia, first moon of Lh'owon
Yloa, second moon of Lh'owon
Pfhor Homeworld
Epsilon Euobea (Nar)
Beta Tear (7 Great battles)

UESC
Pfhor (+trih xeem)
Jjaro
Nar (Apparently another dominant race in the quadrant, enemies of the Pfhor, mentioned Elite CFN units)
Drinniol (Pfhor slave)
Nebulon (No references, just a quote and dead ones underneath a dreadnought)
S’pht’Lhar
S’pht’Hra
S’pht’Nma
S’pht’Kah
S’pht’Vir
S’pht’Yra
S’pht’Va
S’pht’Shr
S’pht’Mnr
S’pht’Yor
S’pht’Kr

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
"Cheaters don't really win, and winners don't really cheat. Unless you're talking politics." -Durandal

Weapons:
Trih Xeem
Wave motion cannon
some sort of green tazer-like beam
warp capable fusion missles
battleroid transporter (any ship hit with one of these will die after a while, and start malfunctioning before that, but not instantly)
juggernaught transporter (see above).

Ships
UESC Marathon
UESC Shuttle
Pfhor Fighter
Pfhor Corvette
Pfhor Destroyer
Pfhor Battleship
Pfhor Assault Carrier
Jjaro Dreadnaught

I'm pretty sure we'd have to make up the rest.

As for the UESC/G thing, I'm pretty sure the G only appears in 2+, as it was renamed in the 300-odd years Marathon had been away.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the ratio of damage rate to shields is much higher in Marathon, making ships die faster.

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William Darkk, head of the Darkklight Entrepenurial Federation
"Strategic warfare" is code for "killing civilians", and it's my calling. Yeah, it's barbaric. War's supposed to be.

Ok, obviously I won't be able to follow this plug-in. I got lost somewhere in the last two posts.

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"I'm a controversial figure. My friends either dislike me or hate me."

Maybe battleroids and juggernauts could be two different types of EVA troopers? Juggernauts being capable of fighting and movement, of course.

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Throughout their history these "unenlightened" beings have continually opposed and fought abuses of power wrought by their own bretheren. We, as the prophets would do well to learn from these Humans.
-Final statement of the Salrilian reformist Sirthis shortly before his execution.

Maybe, but they did as much teleporting directly to target as floating in space (marines never actually did, but that was planned at one point).

I think the marines should teleport, and mess up ships (this is in MI, "Post Naval Trauma"). It should take a long time for the marine to finish a ship, though. And a longer time to cycle the "marine transporter" weapon.

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William Darkk, head of the Darkklight Entrepenurial Federation
"Strategic warfare" is code for "killing civilians", and it's my calling. Yeah, it's barbaric. War's supposed to be.

(This message has been edited by Fleet Admiral Darkk (edited 01-10-2001).)

(quote)Originally posted by Fleet Admiral Darkk:
**Weapons:
Trih Xeem
Wave motion cannon
some sort of green tazer-like beam
**(/quote)

Ye olde Particle Beam, yes? And Durandal can focus zem at twice ze Pfhor's maximum range. See, I play too!

Ships
UESC Marathon
UESC Shuttle
Pfhor Fighter
Pfhor Corvette
Pfhor Destroyer
Pfhor Battleship
Pfhor Assault Carrier
Jjaro Dreadnaught

I'm pretty sure we'd have to make up the rest.

As for the UESC/G thing, I'm pretty sure the G only appears in 2+, as it was renamed in the 300-odd years Marathon had been away.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the ratio of damage rate to shields is much higher in Marathon, making ships die faster.

(/B)(/QUOTE) The terms make it appear that any ship can destroy a fleet... meticulously piloted, of course. Lots of fast, maneuverable ships in this one, methinks. Can I help too? Please?

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Subcommander g'Var "8 Lightnings" Krai'un
Second in command of the Escort Starbeam.
"CRUISER DESTROYED. 91 remaining" -Ares, chapter 9, Hand Over Fist

Fast and manuverable, yes, but also with at least one turret per ship. The vast majority of ships are large but fast and have turret S.

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William Darkk, head of the Darkklight Entrepenurial Federation
"Strategic warfare" is code for "killing civilians", and it's my calling. Yeah, it's barbaric. War's supposed to be.

Ship Types:
Fighter
Corvette
Destroyer
Battleship
Assault Carrier
Dreadnought
Colony Ship

Weaponry:
Particle Beam
trih xeem/Nuclear Missiles
Fusion Missiles
Wave Motion

BOB/Fighter/CFN/S'pht Transporter (Generic term: Troopers)
-2 on Fighter
-5 on Corvette
-10 on Destroyer
-15 on Battleship
-25 on Dreanought
-50 on Assault Carrier
-20 on Colony Ship

When # (occupancy) > 4, begins eliminating enemy troopers on ship in a random manner. When there are no remaining enemy troopers, the ship is captured.

Marine/Juggernaut/Elite CFN/Defender transporter (Generic term: Elite)
-1 on Corvette thru Battleship, Colony ship
-2 on Dreadnought, Assault Carrier

These can be transported back. (Don't worry, I'm good with Hera, remember? I've already figured it out)

Eliminates large #s of enemy troopers on ship. No remaining troopers, ship captured.

Races:
UESC/G (BOBs, Marines)
Pfhor (Fighters, Juggernauts)
S'pht'Kr (S'pht, Defenders)
Nar (CFN, Elite CFN)
Nebulon (?,?), weakest race in quadrant.
Jjaro (?,?), strongest race in quadrant.

Capturing Planets:
There should be one colonized planet for each race (at least in multi), as well as a number of uninhabited. A colony ship may be brought to an uninhabited planet, and an outpost built there. Colonized planets may be controlled by teleporting troopers/elites there. Each outpost/planet has a garrison, which can teleport to other ships. Colonies may be destroyed by sending a Nuke or trih xeem. It must then be recolonized.

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-Pallas Athene of Dysian Beta, Obish Consensus Representative
-Nieru Dast, {M}ilitia Aeriane
-Danae Vernius
"Cheaters don't really win, and winners don't really cheat. Unless you're talking politics." -Durandal