It's not an easy thing to do if you just throw in values for systems guessing where they go.

I have been using the EV devlopers map (thats the one made, I don't know how long ago for Escape Velocity) I have searched frenetically through the Nova downloads and the TC Map maker isn't the best thing.

I have already done the bulk of my system, but now I want to move things around, and create new things without screwing around with the EV developers map.

I just want to know if there is a good Map maker that was made for EV/O that will work with Nova, and work well. Or when is cartographer comming out?

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You could use the public beta of (url="http://"http://www.ariossoftware.com/programs/evone/")EVONE(/url), which so far has a Galaxy and s˙st editor working perfectly.

2nd Edit: fixededed URL

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(This message has been edited by Mantaray (edited 04-06-2003).)

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Originally posted by thedecline:
**It's not an easy thing to do if you just throw in values for systems guessing where they go.

I have been using the EV devlopers map (thats the one made, I don't know how long ago for Escape Velocity) I have searched frenetically through the Nova downloads and the TC Map maker isn't the best thing.

I have already done the bulk of my system, but now I want to move things around, and create new things without screwing around with the EV developers map.

I just want to know if there is a good Map maker that was made for EV/O that will work with Nova, and work well. Or when is cartographer comming out?

**

Or you could do what I did for The Ages Trilogy ,which is to grab the nearest copy of Starry Night Pro, and start looking for every last NAMED star in the Galaxy. Took me 10+ hours total time, and I think I still have all the coordinates floating around my HD somewhere...

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Dead silence.
"Quarks it is, then."

What I've done is to go through about six different stellar maps, all growing in distance from earth, the first was ten light years, then 12 light years, then twenty then fifty, etc, etc, this gave me a pretty good idea on where they all are and what there names are, the only prob was placing them - but i've got most of the glaxy worked out.

But I'll try EVONE, thanks Mantaray.

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The galaxy is about to become apocalyptic: (url="http://"http://3114.spyw.com")3114:A Nova TC(/url)

It only works on 9 and X eh, poor old me and my OS 8.6.

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The galaxy is about to become apocalyptic: (url="http://"http://3114.spyw.com")3114:A Nova TC(/url)

Y'know, like I said, I've still got all those old coords hanging around somewhere, and I could fix them up and email them to you, if you'd like... They're valid coords for real stars, most with real names.

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Dead silence.
"Quarks it is, then."

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Originally posted by thedecline:
**It only works on 9 and X eh, poor old me and my OS 8.6.

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Please download it and try it out on 8.6... it is believed to work but is not listed in the System Requirements because I do not know for sure. If you try it, please post how well it worked here or email me at ariossw@mac.com

Thanks,

Jeffrey - Arios SoftWare

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It starts up and gives you the 'agree to terms' page but then quits with un error -3 straight after that. oh well. hope thats some help for you.
Yeah spacecowboy that would be cool if you could send me those co-ords, I'm not sure If id use them but it great to have them.

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Originally posted by spacecowboy:
**Y'know, like I said, I've still got all those old coords hanging around somewhere, and I could fix them up and email them to you, if you'd like... They're valid coords for real stars, most with real names.

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Do you think you could get me a copy of those? i am trying to make the systems as astronomically acurate as possible.

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Originally posted by thedecline:
**It starts up and gives you the 'agree to terms' page but then quits with un error -3 straight after that. oh well. hope thats some help for you.

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Interesting, thanks for the report.

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The thing about creating systems accuratly is the Nova stellar map is 2D, the layout of stars is very much 3D and hence their (x,y) coords won't be accurate when it comes to how far systems are away from each other.

Getting the names right is good enough for me.

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By the way, has there been any update on TomWoozle's random galaxy creator lately? (most likely not, it's been iced for ages and I cant' find any new info - but you never know, maybe I missed something) Or does anyone know of a similar tool?

I seem to recall David Arthur saying something about putting the "random galaxy" feature in Cartographer at some point, but I'm not sure - maybe I'm just imagining that. In any case, it would be a nice little extra to have in a galaxy editor

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Originally posted by boot:
By the way, has there been any update on TomWoozle's random galaxy creator lately? (most likely not, it's been iced for ages and I cant' find any new info - but you never know, maybe I missed something) Or does anyone know of a similar tool?

I believe it went onto the back burner some time ago.

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Originally posted by boot:
I seem to recall David Arthur saying something about putting the "random galaxy" feature in Cartographer at some point, but I'm not sure - maybe I'm just imagining that. In any case, it would be a nice little extra to have in a galaxy editor:)

I don't think I ever planned to do this or said anything about it.

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Originally posted by David Arthur:
I don't think I ever planned to do this or said anything about it.

Ah, never mind - I guess it was just wishful thinking then. You've probably had your fill of subtle and not-so-subtle feature requests already

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Originally posted by AriosSw:
**Interesting, thanks for the report.

**

Your second url on your sig doesn't work
and whens the next pb release going to be?

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Originally posted by Infinate:
**Your second url on your sig doesn't work
and whens the next pb release going to be?

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Thanks for letting me know. The link has been fixed.

I am sticking to Ambrosia's policy of not predicting releases after I underestimated the release date of the previous beta by about a month Rest assured that it is coming, however, and sooner rather than later. I am currently putting significant work into EVONE's ResEdit Template Driver, as that will be the major feature of the next beta. It is currently done, but I am adding a number of very advanced features that will make it arguably better than NovaTools.

There have been so many changes from the previous version that I could not possibly describe them all and there are a number of great new features.

Actually, for fun, lets give a ROUGH timeframe of "before June 1 of this year"

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Following up on (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum9/HTML/003879.html")this thread(/url), will the next beta also have a different way to keep track of the demo period?

It would be nice if, for example, it could be used for a total time of 30 hours (or however long you think it should be), instead of the standard 30 days, regardless of whether you used it in that time.

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Originally posted by boot:
**Following up on this thread, will the next beta also have a different way to keep track of the demo period?

It would be nice if, for example, it could be used for a total time of 30 hours (or however long you think it should be), instead of the standard 30 days, regardless of whether you used it in that time.

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Yes, that is indeed on the list.

The current plan is to first of all have this beta reset the demo period so everyone can start fresh. The system will then still be limited to 30 days, but it will be thirty days of actual USE. So if you download it, run it, then get busy for a week and run it the next weekend, you will have used only 2 of your thirty days. Comments?

The downside of this is that people could potentially stretch their demo period out to a very long time, but I am simply hoping that if people really like it they will register or donate anyway and it won't be the expiration of the demo period making them.

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Originally posted by AriosSw:
The system will then still be limited to 30 days, but it will be thirty days of actual USE. (...) Comments?

Sounds fine to me

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Originally posted by AriosSw:
**Yes, that is indeed on the list.

The current plan is to first of all have this beta reset the demo period so everyone can start fresh. The system will then still be limited to 30 days, but it will be thirty days of actual USE. So if you download it, run it, then get busy for a week and run it the next weekend, you will have used only 2 of your thirty days. Comments?

The downside of this is that people could potentially stretch their demo period out to a very long time, but I am simply hoping that if people really like it they will register or donate anyway and it won't be the expiration of the demo period making them.

**

Thank god i downloaded it and forgot about it then found out that i had to wait 76 sec before it loaded

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