yeah. I've finished everything except the section on compiling sprites. It'll probably be done tomorrow or something. It's a step-by-step walkthrough, mostly for comm, shipyard, target, and spin picts, though it does have tips on the 3D modelling. yeah.

BTW, i'm assuming that the user will know how to make the actual 3D model.. is that presumptuous of me? should i add more detail to that part?

the guide also comes with three supplementary images which will help you with making the target, and, since it's in DocMaker format, you can view it with any mac. (if j00 got a problem with DocMaker, live with it. That's what i've got and beggars can't be choosers...)

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I was just wondering if you knew of a way to convert infini-d models without actually having infini-d...I have lots of ships that were supposed to be for an EVO TC...any how...this spawns from not wanting to install classic on my system

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Nope, sorry. I think I'm getting Maya sometime in the near future, maybe with that? If you have Carrera you should be able to use Infini-D models, since it's based on the Infini-D modeling engine.

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Ouuu,
Thank you "The synthesis of Ray Dream Studio and Infini-D™." humm, the 2 apps I started modeling and animating in...so I might even be able to convert older works w00t *bounces off

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I'm still using Infini-D 4.0, what is the latest version?

and on the using models issue, I used to export my infini-d ships and then import them into bryce (spelling?) but then i always had trouble with shaders on the ship after i got it in bryce ^. dunno... been a while, I'll look into it.

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**I'm still using Infini-D 4.0, what is the latest version?

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4.5, which is what I use. There are a few extra features which come in handy with your more advanced models and animations.

Go get Cinema 4D already! You just don't know what you're missing. Wonderful modeller...

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Well, it's done... now I just need to get it uploaded. The unstuffed version is 2.8 megs (it's very graphical) but it's only 580k stuffed.

I accidentally deleted Fetch and can't find it on any of my backup disks! wahh!!

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Er, Divals, I was sort of thinking that a guide to make the models is what you were working on. I think that is a lot more important than being able to render them into the right formats; most people can do that much if they know how to model.

Will we be seeing an actual modelling guide? Like, how to make a ship from scratch?

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Arg, Carrara. I believe the new versions (Carrara Studio) are a lot less buggy and a lot more powerful than the original release, but I doubt they updated the import abilities; so, based on the old version, its Infini-D importer isn't very good. It does geometry - not textures - and generally isn't very good. I suppose, though, that it's better than nothing (regarding opening Infini-D files).

Also, if you're expecting it to be much like either Infini-D or RayDream, you're going to be in for a shock.

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Originally posted by ares1:
**Er, Divals, I was sort of thinking that a guide to make the models is what you were working on. I think that is a lot more important than being able to render them into the right formats; most people can do that much if they know how to model.

Will we be seeing an actual modelling guide? Like, how to make a ship from scratch?

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I was planning on leaving that more open-ended, since the design of a ship should be more of what the user wants than something from a guide... Well, if you think i should do this, I'll update the guide to include more instruction on building models.

Actually, when I was learning, I had no problem with making the models; it was the spinning that I had the most trouble with. I thought my problems would be more common to other users. But I'll update it sometime this week (tomorrow if I have time)

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Well, have you ever read Squibix's guide for EV shipbuilding in mechanisto? It guided the reader, step by grueling step, through the process of making a very generic (but fairly complex) fighter ship design. It introduced almost every principle imaginable, from wings to advanced texturing. It gave me a good place to start. Once you know how to make the basic components of a ship and have a good feel for the modeller it is much easier.

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Ohhhhhhh... OK.

I shall do it! ph34r the guidey goodness!

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Cpt. Skyblade - you're back?

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I never really left, but I guess you could say I'm back.

I'd appreciate it if perhaps you could swing by my "Infini-D Question" topic... I've got a problem with Infini-D cross sections.

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I'm wondering, could I use Strata 3d to make my models, as it is the only program that I've got.

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Yes, I've seen some good models done with Strata 3D. Both programs are good for making ship models, if you know how to use them.

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**I'm wondering, could I use Strata 3d to make my models, as it is the only program that I've got.

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As far as I'm concerned, you could use any program you're comfortable with...

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**Yes, I've seen some good models done with Strata 3D. Both programs are good for making ship models, if you know how to use them.

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know how to use it...right....
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Thanks I think i will still look into it...as most of my textured were images...it shouldn't be too bad...also those that were not images i wrote down the details of also if i have the geometry, i can easily export to dxf or some other format that will be readable by something else

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**Arg, Carrara. I believe the new versions (Carrara Studio) are a lot less buggy and a lot more powerful than the original release, but I doubt they updated the import abilities; so, based on the old version, its Infini-D importer isn't very good. It does geometry - not textures - and generally isn't very good. I suppose, though, that it's better than nothing (regarding opening Infini-D files).

Also, if you're expecting it to be much like either Infini-D or RayDream, you're going to be in for a shock.

Cpt. Skyblade - you're back?
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So, Divals, any idea when the guide might be ready?

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I submitted it monday afternoon to the ambrosia dudes. I dunno when they'll put it up.

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