I'm starting work on a new plug-in that changes everything (it's practically a new game itself). The only problem is is that I'm not good with ship graphics at all. So here's the scoop: I'm changing all the governments (names and more) so that each will be more independant. That means that I will require a whole array of ship types (fighter, trader, cruiser, etc.) for each government. I need someone or someones to help me with their ship graphics and such. Anyone who does will get credit and will be counted as one of the "crew." Any help will be appreciated. For more information on this plug-in, just ask, since I don't have my .com up yet...

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M has spoken!

Cue the pecimism...

heh. I'm attempting to get myself a copy of C4DXL R6 at the moment unfortunately I'm still wokting on What If? which is my TC plug. It's a bit stagnated while awaiting the release of either Epsilon or EV3.

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--blackhole
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So M, this is your first post, you are making a TC and you don't even have a website up for it yet, no offence meant but your credibility is zero and the chances that you will finish a TC is pretty low considering the work involved.

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(url="http://"mailto:celticstarbase@esatclear.ie")mailto:celticstarbase@esatclear.ie(/url)celticstarbase@esatclear.ie

If you're going to pirate software, at least have the common sense to NOT TALK ABOUT IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM WHERE YOUR POST IS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR IP ADDRESS.

Jeez... I mean, it's like stealing a car and then driving past the police station daily.

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Originally posted by CelticStarbase:
you are making a TC and you don't even have a website up for it yet

When making a plug, you put off the website until it's finished, otherwise it's more likely to be vaporware because you puut too much time into the website, and not the plug.

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Excusez-moi, ętes cette votre tęte?

AIM: evandrewm

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Originally posted by foo12:
**If you're going to pirate software, at least have the common sense to NOT TALK ABOUT IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM WHERE YOUR POST IS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR IP ADDRESS.

Jeez... I mean, it's like stealing a car and then driving past the police station daily.**

A TC is not piracy - I mean, check out Discovery:

The website for discovery is up:
(url="http://"http://www.crosswinds.net/~tcdis")http://www.crosswinds.net/~tcdis(/url)

A TC (total conversion) plug changes all systems, all missions, all sips, etc. - but the game is still EV or EV/O, and that isn't changed.

Viva El Guapo

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Originally posted by ElGuapo7:
**A TC is not piracy - I mean, check out Discovery:

The website for discovery is up:
http://www.crosswinds.net/~tcdis

A TC (total conversion) plug changes all systems, all missions, all sips, etc. - but the game is still EV or EV/O, and that isn't changed.

Viva El Guapo

**

I think he was referring to champion talking about how he's trying to get a copy of Cinema 4d XL. I did have a copy champion, but I couldn't be bothered to learn how to use it so I dumped it.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Did that break your concentration?
I didn't mean to do that.
Please, continue.
I believe you were saying something about "best intentions."
-Jules. Pulp Fiction

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(url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/ubb/newsdisplay.cgi?action=topics&number;=20&forum;=*EV/EVO+chronicles&DaysPrune;=25&article;=000024&startpoint;=")The Tides of War(/url)
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the Necromicon: Just call me the Baron!
**

Now now guys.
You're making very unbiased remarks against me and my project.
Now, I will have my web-site up soon (you guys kiss the opening party good-bye because of your posts) so there I will have the plug info and the story.
The name of the plug: Balkanized Tribalism.
I'm working on a background story for EV Chronicles as I type this message.
So, if you guys wanna be nice and play, I will be wating.

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M has spoken!

And who was talking about "software piracy"? It's a friggin' TC for Christ-Sake. Forget the "new game itself" comment. I was just asking if you guys would like to work with me on this plug. I'm asking for voulnters on graphics and now even other things like Beta testing. All I do is ask for help and you guys go for the neck. Tsk tsk.

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M has spoken!

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Originally posted by M:
**And who was talking about "software piracy"? It's a friggin' TC for Christ-Sake. Forget the "new game itself" comment. I was just asking if you guys would like to work with me on this plug. I'm asking for voulnters on graphics and now even other things like Beta testing. All I do is ask for help and you guys go for the neck. Tsk tsk.

**

Welcome to the rough and tumble world of the Ambrosia Boards. I hope you enjoy your stay. Your complementary snide comments and irony are available at the customer service desk.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Did that break your concentration?
I didn't mean to do that.
Please, continue.
I believe you were saying something about "best intentions."
-Jules. Pulp Fiction

(url="http://"http://www.secretchimpboard.cjb.net/")Secret Chimps Funk-O-Rific Forum(/url) Visit it now! It's much better than UBB!
(url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/ubb/newsdisplay.cgi?action=topics&number;=20&forum;=*EV/EVO+chronicles&DaysPrune;=25&article;=000024&startpoint;=")The Tides of War(/url)
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the Necromicon: Just call me the Baron!
**

(This message has been edited by the Necromicon (edited 08-05-2000).)

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Originally posted by M:
**And who was talking about "software piracy"? It's a friggin' TC for Christ-Sake. Forget the "new game itself" comment. I was just asking if you guys would like to work with me on this plug. I'm asking for voulnters on graphics and now even other things like Beta testing. All I do is ask for help and you guys go for the neck. Tsk tsk.
**

Just wondering, have you ever made a plug-in before? TCs are hard to do. Escpecially for EVO.

I'm doing a STC (Semi-Total Conversion) right now, and it's giving me LOTS of trouble, particularly resource ID specifics. Doing a true TC alone is something I wouldn't attempt right now.

You might want some experience before you work on a TC. Or work on a TC with other people. I'm currently working on a TC with 9 other people. This makes it MUCH easier. We need some help, as one of our most vital members left the project. It's callled A Thousand Worlds. The address is (url="http://"http://members2.boardhost.com/1000worlds")http://members2.boar....com/1000worlds(/url)

Even if you are an experienced plug-in maker we could use your help.

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Originally posted by M:
**Now now guys.
You're making very unbiased remarks against me and my project.
Now, I will have my web-site up soon (you guys kiss the opening party good-bye because of your posts) so there I will have the plug info and the story.
The name of the plug: Balkanized Tribalism.
I'm working on a background story for EV Chronicles as I type this message.
So, if you guys wanna be nice and play, I will be wating....

...And who was talking about "software piracy"? It's a friggin' TC for Christ-Sake. Forget the "new game itself" comment. I was just asking if you guys would like to work with me on this plug. I'm asking for voulnters on graphics and now even other things like Beta testing. All I do is ask for help and you guys go for the neck. Tsk tsk.
**

Well, M, you have to consider the situation here. You appear to be new to the discussion board, so you need to understand a few things.

Everyone who has been visiting these boards for any significant length of time - say a year or more - has seen a multitude of ambitious new players come in and announce "a huge new TC plug-in, the best ever" and then quickly fade away never to be heard from again. Very few people complete a major plug-in once they find out how much work is involved, so any such announcement is greeted with understandable skepticism - we've seen it all before.

There are a number of people here who do not want to "play nice", they take great delight in being negative and abusive. Others will point out what they consider faults or defects in your plans and ideas out of a desire to be helpful, but they may not do it in the most tactful manner.

When you enter a public forum and post messages you must be prepared to receive some negative responses. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

As for my opinion of your project, new high-quality plug-ins are always a good thing. Since you have told us nothing about your project other than the name, I can only say that the name sounds as if it could be an interesting plug.

Good luck.

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Joe Burnette

"I find that humans can be divided into only two meaningful categories: Decent Humans and Sonsofbitches; both types appear to be evenly distributed
among all shapes, colors, sizes, and nationalities." -- Keith Laumer

(This message has been edited by Joe Burnette (edited 08-06-2000).)

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Originally posted by CelticStarbase:
**So M, this is your first post, you are making a TC and you don't even have a website up for it yet, no offence meant but your credibility is zero and the chances that you will finish a TC is pretty low considering the work involved.
**

Heh, anyone remember '-X-' -- a 'newbie' who was talking about a 3DMP EVO... so, what is there to stop M being someone else on the boards... (after all, '-X-' was Mikee)

-Gildor

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(url="http://"http://jonpearse.cjb.net")jonpearse.cjb.net(/url)
jon@jonpearse.f2s.com
AIM: HEGildor

WARNING: Apparently, I am full of potatoes and feet, and spout gizmos and cream. This is a sign of... uh... Oh hang it!

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Originally posted by Gildor:
**Heh, anyone remember '-X-' -- a 'newbie' who was talking about a 3DMP EVO... so, what is there to stop M being someone else on the boards... (after all, '-X-' was Mikee)

-Gildor
**

That's a rare IP he has. Unlikely unless it's someone from another board. And someone from another board wouldn't know so much about EV/O.

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Originally posted by OctoberFost:
**That's a rare IP he has. Unlikely unless it's someone from another board. And someone from another board wouldn't know so much about EV/O.
**

It looks familiar though... I recognise it from somewhere

-Gildor

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(url="http://"http://jonpearse.cjb.net")jonpearse.cjb.net(/url)
jon@jonpearse.f2s.com
AIM: HEGildor

WARNING: Apparently, I am full of potatoes and feet, and spout gizmos and cream. This is a sign of... uh... Oh hang it!

I've cancelled the plug now.
There's too much stuff I need to do for it and there's a lot of other things to do, including working on my web-site, moving stuff around, and getting ready for another year of school.
I will start work soon on "Starscape", a game for the PC. I have experience in C++ and graphics programs, BTW. Starscape will be like EV but will be 1st person from your cockpit/bridge, and there will be no trading or outfits (no upgrades). Each ship comes with all that it can handle. You can't land on planets, but you can dock at their stations.
For more information on Starscape and my new software company, Pseudo-Creations, go to (url="http://"http://www.pseudo-creations.com")www.pseudo-creations.com(/url) in about a week or two.
Thanks for all the pecimism and feedback...

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M has spoken!

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Originally posted by M:
**I've cancelled the plug now.....
**

And M wondered why we were skeptical about his big plans. :rolleyes:

I think that this may set a record for shortest time between announcement and cancellation of a plug.

Oh, well, on to the next 'greatest plug of all time' announcement.

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Joe Burnette

"I find that humans can be divided into only two meaningful categories: Decent Humans and Sonsofbitches; both types appear to be evenly distributed
among all shapes, colors, sizes, and nationalities." -- Keith Laumer

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Originally posted by M:
**I have experience in C++ and graphics programs, BTW.
**

Graphics huh...didn't you say at the top that you sucked and needed help in that area...dude...hehe...dude...PEACE YO!

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~Kwanza~

"Quoted the Kwanza Man...nevermore"

AIM: Kwanzar26

Kwanzasoft Graphics
(url="http://"http://www.crosswinds.net/~kwanza")www.crosswinds.net/~kwanza(/url)

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Originally posted by foo12:
**If you're going to pirate software, at least have the common sense to NOT TALK ABOUT IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM WHERE YOUR POST IS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR IP ADDRESS.

Jeez... I mean, it's like stealing a car and then driving past the police station daily.**

Yes I was talking about downloading C4DXL.

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