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Originally posted by Phantmrain:
**If only we could play each other online...ahhhh the possibilities. Then we'd see who'd win this battle.
::sits down and crys himself to sleep with the thought of such happiness in his head::

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Well, we all know EV will never be multiplayer...

Besides, we already know the Azdara would beat Silverdragon's Crescent Fighter.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Well, we all know EV will never be multiplayer...

Besides, we already know the Azdara would beat Silverdragon's Crescent Fighter.

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Wanna bet? Oh and although I don't like the Azdara, the krait I would deffiently not want to be in. Besides, my Crescent Fighter can take out an Azdara, a krait, and SD's CW all in the same battle.

Whitehawk

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The worst ship in the game is...

The Helian

It is far too slow, expensive, undershielded, lacking cargo room, and lacking weapons space to be efficient.

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Originally posted by General Rak:
**The worst ship in the game is...

The Helian

It is far too slow, expensive, undershielded, lacking cargo room, and lacking weapons space to be efficient.

**

True, the Helian may be a useless ship to the player, but one must note that it's a pretty scary ship, when you're darting about the fairly close renegade space, those needle rockets and turrets can post a real problem.

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And still blowing up them Strands, 'cause the Aggies haven't given him the new shield generator yet.

Hey, the helian isnt that bad, i've faired well in a helian for quite sometime in the begining. Im sure there are better ships for the price, but frankly, i liked the look of it, and with my shuttlecraft, i thought it wasnt half bad.

Frankly, i dont know why the EV series could one day go online, it would be rather spectactular.

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Go to any other board, and notice the number of "EV Online" style topics being locked. Most mods (and members) also get very annoyed when people start talking about this. We've been through these arguments a few hundred times.

Topic: The worst ship is the Krait, hands down. For crying out loud, it's worse then a Defender. The EV Defender has more shields and speed, and better recharge. And it sucks.

CFs rule. Azdaras are ok. Azdaras, though, have almost no room for expansion compared to a CF. 45 tons is a lot for a fighter! Besides, you can do passenger missions with a CF. You can't even do the Adzgari's own raiding missions with an Azdara, which in my opinion is a major failing. Anyways, an upgraded CF is almost as fast as an Azdara, and you can fit Dospect on it if you wanted without sacrificing so much room.

Sorry, Skyblade, but Crescent Fighters are far better than Azdaras.

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I've made a decision...im going to play the remander of my new game as a Krait. Wish me luck.

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For Pics I'd have to say the UE destroyer, It looks like a friggen red rocket, pretty lame. the Krait is also pointless, but they do get rather annoying if enough are launched. The krait is the worst ship. The shuttle looks rather stupid though, a bubble with two engines. Is that Cresent Fighter smiling at me?

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Krait's rock!

1 on 1, they aren't so hot, but look at the COST for a minute! If anybody would like to stand up and announce they can take on 100 Kraits, let alone a thousand, please do so.

Then, when EVN then comes, I'll make a "Fighter the Krait" plug-in, which reverts to EVO ships, and you can test against as many Kraits as can fit on the screen (around 72, I believe)

It's a pity you can't add more memory to EV/O/N, and manually raise the max. number of ships.......

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- SilverDragon

I think the dumbest ship in the game may be the Turncoat. They try to make a profit by attacking trader ships...

At the end of the first thirty seconds in any such battle, the trader is still flying around, and the Turncoat needs 150,000cr worth of replacement fighters. Even if he seizes a good cargo, the Turncoat captain has already wiped out his profit margin. It's nice to see that even in the future, criminals are still stupid.

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Originally posted by Lord Asriel:
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Sorry, Skyblade, but Crescent Fighters are far better than Azdaras.

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No need to apologize. What you've said is merely one's opinion, which I don't have to agree with, right?

In AI play, the Crescent Fighter would finish off an Azdara in a fair dogfight. A human player against a human player, however, would be a different story.

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You're wrong.

Un-upgraded it's like AI against AI, taking skill as the same.

Upgraded, but not with Azdgari shield enhancers (that means invincibility both), I'd just use rocket-pursuit tactics.

You couldn't stand up to two pursuit missiles combined with heavy phase power, per run.

I'm sure you couldn't.

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Originally posted by SilverDragon:
**Krait's rock!

1 on 1, they aren't so hot, but look at the COST for a minute! If anybody would like to stand up and announce they can take on 100 Kraits, let alone a thousand, please do so.

**

An Azdara can take on any number of Kraits. The Krait may be fast, but an Azdara is faster.

Blast a few, run away, run back, blast a few, run away, run back, blast a few, run away, run back, blast a few, run away.....

<edit> An AI Azdara obviously wouldn't do that, but a human player with an afterburner and fuel scoops could pull it off. It may even be possible with a stock Azdara. </edit>
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(This message has been edited by Azdara Pilot (edited 09-17-2001).)

You guys need to get one thing straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is not currently, never was before, and will never be, a better ship than an Azdara. If you can't see that you must be Emalghan or something and still flying stoneage ship and you've never even seen an Azdara!

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(quote)Originally posted by SilverDragon:
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You couldn't stand up to two pursuit missiles combined with heavy phase power, per run.

I'm sure you couldn't.

Forget about the shielding! If a good pilot is flying the Azdara, then that isn't even something to argue about (especially with dospect armor. You can rip those crescent fighters with ease).

The Azdara's edge is speed. In truth, the Azdara is a homesick angel: It will scream past anything (even crescent fighters) easilly. I prefer sacrificing shielding for speed, and using four swivel phase cannons to make pop shots.

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Originally posted by Azdara Pilot:
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<edit> An AI Azdara obviously wouldn't do that, but a human player with an afterburner and fuel scoops could pull it off. It may even be possible with a stock Azdara. </edit>**

Quite true. I've easilly managed to pull of the Pariah missions (the one in particular with 11 Turncoats and way too many kraits) in a standard Azdara, without the Monty Python. The kraits will usually get grouped together and use tremendous amounts of blaze fire to rip your shields, but you can destroy them one by one by using circling tactics and pop shots quote easilly.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
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The Azdara's edge is speed. In truth, the Azdara is a homesick angel: It will scream past anything (even crescent fighters) easilly. I prefer sacrificing shielding for speed, and using four swivel phase cannons to make pop shots.

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Exactly. And not only does the Azdara's speed allow it to take out anything, given enough skill and (in the case of Voinian warships) patience, it also makes it one of the most FUN ships to fly. That is why we play EV, a GAME, at all. I'd much rather fly an Azdara than a
massive warship where you can fall asleep decelerating to land. (Actually, I'd much rather fly an Azdara than any other ship).

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Originally posted by Azdara Ace
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You guys need to get one thing straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is not currently, never was before, and will never be, a better ship than an Azdara. If you can't see that you must be Emalghan or something and still flying stoneage ship and you've never even seen an Azdara!
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For reasons stated above, my thoughts exactly. <edit> Is it just me, or does anyone else think that praising the BEST ship in the game is running a bit off topic? </edit>

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(This message has been edited by Azdara Pilot (edited 09-17-2001).)

A Krait. Slow compared to other Crescent fighters, lightly armed, no armor, barely any shields, no room for expansion. A pathetic ship unless they come in swarms of 10 or more. Of course, any ship is dangerous in swarms, so that doesn't count. Besides, just chuck a space mine in their general direction, and BOOM!!!

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Hey, hey, mates, I need to answer this.

First, this is "dumbest" ships topic. We're obviously talking about a badly DESIGNED ship, and for that the Krait is absolutely spectacular. We're not talking about players, we're talking about SHIPS, and that brings cost into the range.

For cost, you could have, I think, 1500 AI Kraits to one AI Azdara. Now, look, I've often destroyed x amount of y ships in my Crescent Fighter - persons don't and can't count, as that ISN"T anything to do with "how good this ship design was".

The Azdara is a waste. It's a souped up Krait, for about 1500 times more cost. If we're talking pers, a rocket-pursuit tactic will take it out, and no Azdara can evade. If you think you can evade MY Crescent Fighter you have another thing coming. I'll just sit where I am and watch you come. Swivel phase and rocket-pursuit tactics will get you, in zero time flat (ignoring Azdgari shield.generator, like I said, that's invincibility, and if you had it, so would I)

Okay, come on, friends. AI on AI, Crescent Fighter beats the Azdara, and is CHEAPER. So it's a better ship. Pers on pers, admit it, you can't avoid a pursuit missile when fired while you're about 2 pixels away from the launcher, you can't avoid four swivel phase cannons, and you can't survive at that right, not against a Crescent Fighter with speed or armour upgrades as well. And don't forget, you may have Dospect, but so can I.

So, you can't win in AI, you can't win in pers.

Like I said, cost means everything. Carno, my Crescent Fighter doesn't have to Monty Python either to win that mission, and I'm sure it's as easy for me as it is for you. So there.

I don't need multiplayer to see Cres.Fighter against Azdara. The Azdara is pitiful in comparison. The multiplayer mistake:

The bigger ship wins.

It just comes down to that. I won't pretend I can take out even a player Lazira in a Crescent Fighter - I'd be dead on the first pass. And you know why? Because humans beat AI, and they JUST how to take out any fighter.

Here's another little idea for you. Just look at the lone Azdara guarding systems. They don't fare so well, do they? Carno says swarms don't count, so stop thinking about the "deadly 6-pack Azdaras". That's the only place they are deadly, and THAT costs 9 million. 9 million.

SilverDragon

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That's all very nice, but where are the guns?
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Hold that reply, I'll start a topic.

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