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    • Outfitting the Cresent Fighter


      OK folks,I just brought a Cresent Fighter,and I'm after suggestions as to how to upgrade it.
      But please ,none of this "Sell it and buy an Azdara" stuff.
      I hate the Azdara,because it gives me neuroses after fighting the Azdgari.

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    • Wait for Silverdragon to post. Heยดs our C.fighter expert

    • Here's my configuration:

      Engine Upgrade
      Adzgari Upgrade
      Shield Generator
      4 Swivel Phase Cannons
      Afterburner
      2 Fuel Tanks
      2 Fuel Scoops
      1 Shield Enhancer
      ECM
      Sensor Upgrade

      I think that does it. That's my Adzgari pilot. SD is the expert though, so...

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    • There are a few Crescent Fighters over at the (url="http://"http://pftn.evula.net/")Pilot File Trade Network(/url)... you could download them and see how they've been outfitted

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    • I sent you a crescent fighter this morning...did you get it?

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    • No,I didn't get it.
      are you sure you got the email adress right?
      It's:
      nicholas@netaccess.co.nz
      It usually works for other people.

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    • Sorry, I meant I sent it to the PFTN. :frown: I was asking Flatty. You could email SilverDragon, though, for a good config of a CF...

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      (This message has been edited by Lord Asriel (edited 09-05-2001).)

    • Heya guys, thanks for all the faith in me there.

      Asriel:
      Engine Upgrade
      Adzgari Upgrade
      Shield Generator
      4 Swivel Phase Cannons
      Afterburner
      2 Fuel Tanks
      2 Fuel Scoops
      1 Shield Enhancer
      ECM
      Sensor Upgrade

      Not too bad. I tend to go for as many swivels as I can get (sorry, my current CF has blaze to take on the Dreadnought, and I can't go and change it to find the swivel phase max). If it's four, I would get a standard phase cannon also. That's 9 or 10 tons taken, 35 left.

      Repulsor beam, always, and just for Azdaras too. By using it you slow the Azdara to a speed worked from it's mass and the repulsor's beam impact, which is SLOWER than it's max speed. This is the best way to isolate one from a pack and then blow it up while it's floating backwards harmlessly.

      25 tons.

      Zidagar Upgrade, to give 20 more tons. That puts you back at 45, unless I'm dreadfully mistaken.

      Shield Enhancers galore. 4 never hurt. Then whichever fuel upgrade you prefer (personally I like the scoops, but tanks if you're less patient - I usually get into a scrap every 3 jumps, so I don't have to worry about fuel much). That leaves 15 tons, which I believe is enough to upgrade your shield recharge.

      If you have a spare 10 tons, get an RCS upgrade, so you can out turn other Crescent Fighters, or alternatively a Thrust Upgrade to give you an edge over other ships in speed, which helps when fighting Crescent Warships with their fighters.

      With EVO 1.0.2, I must admit the afterburner is almost vital, but then again, I stick with the earlier versions. In this case dump the 5th cannon if you don't feel like fighting Igazras, or dump the RCS if you think you can handle other Crescent Fighters anyway. If you dump the RCS, get one of the other fuel upgrade, tank or scoop.

      As for ECMs, Zidagar are the best, always.

      If you're still stuck, take an aspirin, get yourself some hot chocolate, and post that you just can't kill those bad guys. I'll tell you how I take on every ship in the game (just note that Igazras are always big scary monsters, very big...scary)

      SilverDragon

      PS: As the self proclaimed master of the Crescent Fighter, which I don't deserve as their are so many Crescent Fighter masters out there, may I just add it's "Crescent", not "Cresent". ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • Hmm, I'd definitely go with the Igadzra for a top notch Crescent Fighter, and have done before :). Given that the Plasma Siphon is transferrable, you can buy a new CF once you have it, and that replaces your 2 fuel scoops, and gives you a good weapon for taking out Azdaras - I've never tried using a repulsor beam. The ideal is of course to go both Igadzra and Zidagar, and then you can include a Phased Beam on the CF as well, making it even easier to deal with Azdaras :).

    • I find the Engine Upgrade to be more useful than the RCS. Then again, mine is an Adzgari pilot, so I get their upgrade. The Shield Generator is more useful for me than the Zidagar upgrades, although I admit the Systems Upgrade is hard to beat.
      I've taken down a few Igazras before in CFs, but it's pretty hard. Gotta change my outfits for those -- I just squeeze on three Shield Enhancers, at the price of the fuel tanks. If you're playing Zidagar, you should really get Dospect Armor, though...Crescent weapons don't work too well against armor.

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    • If you're using the crescent fighter, a cargo pod might come in handy for missions.
      (Crew of One challenge?)

      Though it does expend a bit of weapons space that might be useful for weapons.

    • I never flew the CF, personally, but I was impressed with the weapon loadout, and the surprising punch it packs for such a...round...package.

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    • If you have the room I would use dospect over the shield enhancers.

    • What can I say? When my shields reach 0 I panic and run away. I'm just not an armour person...

      ...even though Dospect is much better than shield enhancers.

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    • Quote

      Originally posted by SilverDragon:
      **What can I say? When my shields reach 0 I panic and run away. I'm just not an armour person...

      ...even though Dospect is much better than shield enhancers.

      **

      Very funny! ๐Ÿ˜„ When you reach zero shields, you're dead!

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    • I usually outfit my Crescent Fighter with whatever seems best at the time. Usually four phase cannons and maybe some pursuit missiles will work fine...

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    • Quote

      Originally posted by General Rak:
      **Very funny!:D When you reach zero shields, you're dead!

      **

      Not so. There's still armor; didn't he say that?

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    • No.. and anyway, you don't die at 0 shields even with no armour on your ship. Speaking from 'Crew of One Challenge' experience, you can be taken down to 0 shields in a Krait, for example, and just fly away - from memory I think one rocket does this exactly. And the effect is the same with cloaking in such a ship - the huge drawback is that if you don't equip it with armour, your shields will just stay at 0 when that happens, and never recharge.

    • I put Dospect on any ship I have. It virtualy doubles it's toughness. I've also experimented with fighters (UE fighters admitedly) equipped with NO GUNS at all! 2-3 needle missile launchers is a pretty good alternative, concidering 3 launchers only takes 45tons, and you can have 250 missiles without taking up any space (more if taken from disabled ships).

      Az

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      The above post can be concidered
      "Parlez vous sans mon derreire"
      As the french probably wouldn't say.

    • Here is my opinion on how to upgrade the Crescent Fighter:

      Description: While these fighters cannot match the speed of the Azdara, they are certainly highly agile and deadly effective in comparison to the fighters of more primitive races. Ships like this have been around almost forever in the Crescent, and every faction, including the Miranu, uses them or has access to them in one form or another.

      Interpretation: They are beefed up albiet slower versions of the Azdara. They excel at taking out non crescent (UE + Emalgha) ships and are highly generic. The Zidagar and Zachit both use adaptations of this fighter to successful results.

      Escort Description: The pilot of this ship seems almost ready to waive any fee he is so eager to take to flight.

      Seems to indicate this ship is used as a stepping stone to other fighters.

      Statistics: (ResEdit Scale)
      Shields: 200
      Armor: 0
      Speed: 450
      Accel: 1000
      Manuever: 180 deg/sec
      Fuel: 3 jumps
      Shield Recharge: 2.5 points per second
      Cargo: 5 tons
      Space: 45 tons
      MaxGuns/Turrets: 5/1
      Cost: 800,000 credits
      Mass: 8 tons
      Length: 15 meters
      Crew: 1
      Availability: The Crescent and parts of Miranu Space
      Special: Initiates hyperjump VERY fast, ship as AI has afterburner if player has a high combat rating
      Weapons:
      4 phase cannons

      Space: 65 tonnes

      Fighting the Voinians:
      4 Emalgha Cannons 60T
      Density Scanner 0T
      IFF Decoder 0T
      1 Fuel Scoop 5T

      Fighting the Igadzra:
      5 Swivel Phase Cannons 30T
      2 External Fuel Tanks 10T
      1 Fuel Scoop 5T
      Density Scanner 0T
      IFF Decoder 0T
      ECM System 0T
      Sensor Upgrade 0T
      Dospect Armour 20T

      Fighting the Zidagar:
      5 Swivel Phase Cannons 30T
      2 External Fuel Tanks 10T
      1 Fuel Scoop 5T
      Density Scanner 0T
      IFF Decoder 0T
      Sensor Upgrade 0T
      Dospect Armour 20T

      Fighting the Azdgari:
      5 Swivel Phase Cannons 30T
      1 Fuel Scoop 5T
      Density Scanner 0T
      IFF Decoder 0T
      ECM System 0T
      Sensor Upgrade 0T
      Dospect Armour 20T
      RCS Upgrade 10T

      Fighting the United Earth:
      5 Swivel Phase Cannons 30T
      1 Fuel Scoop 5T
      Density Scanner 0T
      IFF Decoder 0T
      ECM System 0T
      Sensor Upgrade 0T
      Manueverability Upgrades 30T

      Hope it helps ๐Ÿ™‚

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