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    • Porting EVO, EV3 to PC?


      Even if no one reads this, I just want to post it anyway. I would really, really, really like to see EVO or the upcoming EV3 Ported to PC. I don't want to get into an argument over which type of computer, PC or Mac, is better. It's just that my old mac is dead now and I found I was better off getting a PC for its raw power, price, and the amount of software for it that is available. Ever since I did this, I have been making it my one wish (outside of ending world hunger) that EVO or EV3 will be available for PC. I dont want to be stuck emulating, because it just isnt the same. I know this is a lot to ask of Ambrosia... but the PC market for an open-ended game like this is huge. I personally know 5 or 6 people off hand who would galdly pay $30+ dollars for a game like this in any software store! Please please reocnsider porting it!

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      Originally posted by KibblesNB:
      Even if no one reads this, I just want to post it anyway. I would really, really, really like to see EVO or the upcoming EV3 Ported to PC. I don't want to get into an argument over which type of computer, PC or Mac, is better. It's just that my old mac is dead now and I found I was better off getting a PC for its raw power, price, and the amount of software for it that is available. Ever since I did this, I have been making it my one wish (outside of ending world hunger) that EVO or EV3 will be available for PC. I dont want to be stuck emulating, because it just isnt the same. I know this is a lot to ask of Ambrosia... but the PC market for an open-ended game like this is huge. I personally know 5 or 6 people off hand who would galdly pay $30+ dollars for a game like this in any software store! Please please reocnsider porting it!

      EV/EVO rule #1 - it is never being ported... if you want to play it on the PC, you'll need an emulator... I'll let those who know tell you about that.

      -Gildor

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    • The 800$ imacs compete with the prices of any new pc on the market, and for raw power the dual processor 500mhz G4s outperform any currently available pc

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    • I became tired of the lacking software available for mac 2 years ago and went and bought a PC. So I have both but I use my Mac more than I use my PC now because there is much more software available for it now than it was for a couple of years ago. If EV3 will be made for PC, then you'll have to wait for some time after the release for Mac because there is a large job converting a Mac game for PC. The best resolution for this is to have both. If your mac is dead, buy a new one, they are not so expensive. I found out that choosing between Mac and PC was impossible so I got em both....

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    • if you don't like macs then don't EVO because it is a mac game

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      **don't EVO
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      Is EVO a verb now? Learn English.

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      Originally posted by OctoberFost:
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      **don't EVO
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      Is EVO a verb now? Learn English.
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      I EVO
      s/he EVOs
      we EVO
      you EVO
      they EVO

      I EVOed etc

      I dunno I quite like it :).

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    • I'd like to stay out of the PC-Mac argument... I just want to ask a question, can someone tell me where I can get a Mac emulator? Playing EVO on one of the first power macs is really slow....

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    • I forget the "play" stupid

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    • (I presumably that when you say PC, you mean Windoze. I use a PC for my
      gateway/firewall, but it is untainted by Microsoft's oozing filth.)

      Yes, if people bitch at Ambrosia enough or their Mac sales decline, then maybe
      some day they will sell out and go for the bigger market. That will be a sad
      day, because once they do that, then they'll release Mac/Windoze versions
      simultaneously (thereby delaying the initial release). And then after that,
      they would release Windoze versions first, with Mac release lagging behind,
      and then after that, Mac would get dropped. Let's not go down that road.

      If someone chooses the platform of mediocrity, then let them live with the
      consequences. You can't play EVO on your blue light special? Tough. You
      chose poorly. Maybe 6 months from now when your PeeCee is hopelessly
      obsolete and ready for another replacement, you will choose more wisely.

      I hope Ambrosia never ports anything to Windows, because that would justify
      the people who are shovelling money into Microsoft's pockets. The world is
      already swirling around the toilet. Rewarding the glass-eyed zombie horde
      for acting like a horde, will just speed up our trip down the drain.

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      Originally posted by Sloppy:
      (I presumably that when you say PC, you mean Windoze. I use a PC for my
      gateway/firewall, but it is untainted by Microsoft's oozing filth.)

      Yes, if people bitch at Ambrosia enough or their Mac sales decline, then maybe
      some day they will sell out and go for the bigger market. That will be a sad
      day, because once they do that, then they'll release Mac/Windoze versions
      simultaneously (thereby delaying the initial release). And then after that,
      they would release Windoze versions first, with Mac release lagging behind,
      and then after that, Mac would get dropped. Let's not go down that road.

      If someone chooses the platform of mediocrity, then let them live with the
      consequences. You can't play EVO on your blue light special? Tough. You
      chose poorly. Maybe 6 months from now when your PeeCee is hopelessly
      obsolete and ready for another replacement, you will choose more wisely.

      I hope Ambrosia never ports anything to Windows, because that would justify
      the people who are shovelling money into Microsoft's pockets. The world is
      already swirling around the toilet. Rewarding the glass-eyed zombie horde
      for acting like a horde, will just speed up our trip down the drain.

      No; the opposite happens all the time. It's not that hard to do a simultaneous release. The core data and algorithms are the same, all that is required is a simple swapping out of external interface classes and a recompile. Or they could make all their software in Java! (Maybe not, but it was worth a try.)

      In other words, for 5-10% more work you get about about double the market. Any company worth anything will tell you that's a good deal (hint, hint). Most game companies have already realized that and have started doing dual or simultaneous releases. I'm surprised that Ambrosia has not yet done the same.

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    • Join the club, pal. I am hardly feeling any sympathy for someone 'else' who wants this game ported to the PC. You're not exactly in a position to really need this game, as there are dozens like it(well, not like it, but similar) available for the PC. Okay, maybe not, and that's the good part of it.

      But the point is that, while it may seem a little arrogant, consider the fact that there are ten times as many Ambrosia sized software/shareware companies out there that don't 'befriend' us Mac users, and only make games for the PC. Not to mention the big boys who either give us some crappy port(SimCity3000, Descent3, all PC sports games, and I could go on), or don't port at all(most sports games, all racing games, many flight sims, etc.).

      It frustrates me beyond reason every Sunday when I open the paper, grab the only store that will even advertise games for the Mac, look over in the games sections, and, out of 30 to 40 games displayed, only see two or three for the Mac. And that little Mac face which you have to hunt for. And the little section of CompUSA that is smaller than my bedroom. And the Mac catalogs that have like one or two pages of games. Are my fellow Mac people feeling me?

      I said, are my Mac people feeling me?!

      So in retrospect, yes I am ranting.

      For those who say it's not that hard to port, try porting it yourself. And it's just as easy for "them" to port to us. But they don't, so screw 'em. For those who cry "Market Share", consider that, regardless of platform, Ambrosia is one of the most noted and quality Shareware digs out there. Not to mention, it is Shareware. Imagine if they made us buy it in the store. They wouldn't need to port. I'd be right there. Looking in the tiny section of the paper, finding the little Mac face, going to the tiny section of the store that has it, and shoving out my $30-40, and not once feeling sorry for the PC-philes who can't get it.

      As I said, welcome to the club. 🆒

      (PS: It would've probably been more useful for you to buy a new Mac, then go to the PC gamers and complain to them in reverse. It would serve a far greater purpose, since I assume you bought the PC 'cus you think more is better. )

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      Originally posted by Arcane:
      Playing EVO on one of the first power macs is really slow....

      Well, emulators are about 10x slower. 😛

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      Originally posted by Arcane:
      **Playing EVO on one of the first power macs is really slow....

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      Just crank up the speed, it should help.

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      Originally posted by CelticStarbase:
      Just crank up the speed, it should help.

      True, sort of.

      I can just barely run EVO on Executor, with speed up full, and it is still awfully slow at times. There's also no sound, which I am working on.

      Anyway Q-Czar, quit your complaining and go get a PC.

      If I had the source code to EV anything, I would be glad to port it even if I didn't get any money as a result.

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    • I fail to see why you would even need a pc. There is a huge volume of software available for the mac, most of it better then its PC counterpart. Face it, the mac is a more powerful, more easy to use machine. You can go for a PC, but it'll be the worst decision of you life. A mac may cost a pretty penny, but it will be useful for a lot longer.

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    • lol Me, a Piss'C. Ha! I laugh at thee.

      First of all, I am in no way complaining about my Mac'xperiences. I'd take them any day over a Perennial'C. Pound for pound, Macs are just more practical, while PC's, for reasons stated above, are just more convenient. Anyway, if I had it that bad, why the hell would I have a Mac in the first place?

      Second of all, it seems strange that you're there to chew out anyone who is 'pro-Mac', but, in a forum about a Mac game, on a board where everyone should assume that mostly Mac topics are discussed, about a company that only make Mac products, that you tell people to 'go get a PC' , yet not once make the far more practical suggestion that the person who started this thread just go get another(one of the 90% more) PC game. Hmmmmm? I'm sensing a little bias here.

      Third of all, do you even have a Mac? 😉

      BTW, KibblesNB , I meant no offense to you in my ranting, just Ooter.(j/k)

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    • i thought for sure that this one thread would have been locked, so i was waiting for it to cease before i read it.

      good to see that you people are keeping it generally clean of flames.

      as for the Mac vs PeeCee debate, one must agree that there are a volume of good games for PeeCee that will never go to the Mac.

      Half Life
      Fallout 2
      Postal 2 (if you have an open mind and cant be offended)
      ..others

      but we as a people must NOT concentrate on that battle- there is one more pertinant: Wal Mart.

      simple thing to think, correct? people just want to think that if the companies will make mac games, they will stick, and more people will buy macs, and more companies will develop for the mac, and so on. but the war must first be won at the bottom, even below computer stores- retail chain stores like target and wal mart. the most you will find for a mac in those places is a copy of You Dont Know Jack or some other hybred re-hash of a sequal.
      just to have one shelf of macintosh material would turn the tide.

      anyway, I think it is refreshing to see that the BEST MAC GAME OF ALL TIME (as rated by Inside Mac Games) is STILL a Macintosh game.

      Keep up the good fight, ambrosia, and may that upcoming mac/pc release bring you wealth and fame. (though we will see about 50x the PeeCeers in the EV forums after that)

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      Originally posted by Jon Egunner:
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      anyway, I think it is refreshing to see that the BEST MAC GAME OF ALL TIME (as rated by Inside Mac Games) is STILL a Macintosh game.

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      Best Mac game of all time is a Mac game...
      Isn't that like the best male athlete of all time STILL being a male?

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